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Match Thread
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Ashby-Hammond injured in the warm up, replaced by MacGillivray.
1-0 down, currently down to 9th place.
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Re: Match Thread
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Not sure who performed worse, us or the referee.
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Referee and 4th official both from Surrey, with the 4th from Woking, chairman of the 'Woking referees society' no less and old enough to remember our rivalry and hold a grudge. They knew what they were doing.
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Our disallowed goal
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https://x.com/sbfcnocontext/status/1769025715490480416?s=46&t=itnbzD-LxVE80w6W3cBDgg
Evans is right about the referees
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Re: Our disallowed goal
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What was the official reason given for it being disallowed?
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Re: Our disallowed goal
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Handball against Roberts.
It's hard to tell where the ball hit Roberts, he turned his back and there's a chance it hit the back of his arm, albeit it looked like it either hit his back or the arm above the sleeve line, certainly that's what Roberts appeared to be telling the ref.
Of course it was absolutely not deliberate but unfortunately the handball rule now is, in my opinion, a complete farce so regardless of intent or impact, if it touches a person's arm and leads to a goal the goal is disallowed.
So the only question is, where did it hit Roberts? If I'm a ref in that instance where it doesn't appear to be clear I wouldn't disallow an otherwise perfectly good goal.
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Re: Our disallowed goal
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Interesting they just looked at the handball incident for the disallowed West Ham goal on MoTD and seemed to suggest that because it wasn't the player who scored that handballed it, it had to be intentional/deliberate for it to be disallowed (which they did seem it to be).
So I've no idea, that would make the decision to disallow this goal even more harsh, as I can't see how Roberts' contact can be seen as intentional or in an unnatural position.
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Re: Our disallowed goal
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Watching it back, I think the fact that the Orient defender puts his hand up to appeal straight away probably sways the ref. If he doesn?t appeal, I think the goal is probably given.
Hopefully a week off and we can re charge and go again.
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Re: Our disallowed goal
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Yeah, lick our wounds, get back mentally in the right place and with a bit of hard work could get a result next week. ??
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Yeah, away at the other end of the country without our captain and only goal scorer, chances are looking good!
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They have lost 9 out of 10, and 16 out of 20, they are dogshit.
Evans will have us in full siege mentality mode. Everybody is against us, use what happened at FT on Saturday as extra motivation, chance for players to prove themselves in the absence of Pidge and Reid (but with a full week of prep rather than the awful prep for Saturday gone), and knowing a win puts us back on as no rivals are playing.
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Is Reid suspended?
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International duty
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Called up by Northern Ireland.
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He's been trying that for the last couple of months, and all it seems to be achieving is turning the refs against us more by the sounds of it
Fleetwood were also dogshit, had 10 men for a quarter of the game, and we were at home
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Re: Our disallowed goal
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Our players, not the officials.
Fleetwood came into that in reasonable form, nothing like Carlisle. And we have won more games away than at home.
You miserable git.
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Re: Our disallowed goal
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You just know that up the other end he would have just awarded a goal for Orient. But you cant prove that. Nor could you prove that, should Orient have been chasing the game they would have added on correct time, not just the 3 mins. All of that we all have to accept.
However lack of added time yesterday, whichever way you look at it, is a new level of cheating in plain sight by ref/official. Just watching the game back between half time and their first sub you can be adding on over 2 mins just in 20 mins of play. Add 4 subs etc after that then your nearer the 8 minutes that the Port Vale's of the world get.
Just enough time for an undeserved shoulder ball penalty, but then we wouldn't be getting that either.
Edited by Jas79 at 10:21:05 on 17th March 2024
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Re: Our disallowed goal
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The funny thing with the added time, the start of the season, or was it last season, they were adding on time every time the ball went out of play. 12 minutes wasn't unusual. As always with referees is the incredible lack of consistency that frustrates everyone.
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Re: Our disallowed goal
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Add the time their keeper was taking for releasing the ball, going unpunished the whole game.
Taye is always doing it, and he rightly gets booked for seeing down the clock. The Orient keeper was bullet proof.
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Re: Our disallowed goal
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Re added time what's happened to the new thing that started tjs season where we ended up with 10 mins etc at least of ET most games .PS the fact there defender put his hand up should be irrelevant,it's not cricket, either it was handball or not .
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Re: Our disallowed goal
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Handball .Someone's back is a hand apparently.
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So in a month that's a hand ball at Derby we didn't get a penalty for.
A hand ball at Peterborough we didn't get a penalty for.
Now we've been shafted with the worst refereeing performance i've seen in a long long time to disallow a perfectly good goal from Reidy.
Plus, the penalty for Port Vale against us too which was exactly the same as the hand ball decision we didn't get at Portsmouth back in Jan.
Evans is right, there's clearly an agenda.
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But is it a Stevenage or Steve Evans agenda?
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Both...we're not the most liked club, never have been, and neither is our manager.
At least in the eyes of others, we can't get a worse combination...can we?
Onwards and upwards.
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Plus no VAR although Mr Magoo would have been able to have given the correct decision on most of them without this .
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Er what was it actually disallowed for officially ?
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Handball
https://x.com/robgwarren4/status/1769024467844345896?s=46&t=2E7vUEXVgVtauTSBtBU7Nw
Video here. Make your own mind up.
Shit as usual
InvaderOfPitches
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Re: Our disallowed goal
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So your backside is your arm ?
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Ref probably goes home and gets wellens to fiddle with his backside .
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Richie Wellens
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So glad he's not our manager. I don't think I could stomach having such an odious human representing our club. Probably why he fits in well at Orient.
The uneducated take digs at Big Steve but give me him over Wellens all day long.
Edited by Sev at 17:13:16 on 16th March 2024
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Re: Richie Wellens
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Somewhat surprised that you think that those that criticise Steve Evans are uneducated when his antics are free to see in Wikipedia. Not sure how you can condone Steve Evans previous behaviour and then choose to call Wellens odious for raising an imaginary trophy, hardly comparable. Wellens and Evans are both managers with passion that sometimes gets them into trouble, I'm sure most fans want mangers to be passionate just as we are as fans.
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Re: Richie Wellens
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I didn't even know he had raised an imaginary trophy (when I posted). But didn't surprise as it's the sort of person he is.
My opinion of him has formed over a number of years from listening to him.
If you listen to an Evans interview that isn't right after a game you'll get to know the man rather than the caricature he shows during games and immediately after a match when he boils over.
Whereas when I listen to anything Wellens says alarm bells ring that this isn't the sort of person I'd want to know. If you like him fair enough, but he's not the type of person I'd ever say "oh that surprises me, he didn't seem the sort". ?
Bit like when John Yems got done, no one was surprised as he was a massive tool.
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Re: Richie Wellens
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Yeah, sure ????
check out his antics while manager of Boston Utd as well as multiple incidents of him using foul and abusive language towards match officials and other people from opposing clubs staff, Evans left Crawley on 9 April 2012 to be appointed manager of fellow League Two club Rotherham United on a three-year contract. In September 2012, Evans was given a six-match stadium ban and fined £3,000 by the Football Association after being found guilty of "using abusive and insulting words and behaviour" towards a female member of Bradford City's staff, an incident which occurred during his time at Crawley.
After resigning as Stamford manager he was appointed manager of Boston United in October 1998. He managed Boston to promotion from the Southern Football League to the Football Conference in 2000 and subsequently to the Football League in 2002. Both promotions have since been overshadowed by revelations of off-the-field cheating.
Evans was suspended by Boston as manager on 4 July 2002 after a much-publicised Football Association (The FA) investigation into "contract irregularities". He later resigned as manager of the club in September 2002, after still being suspended by the club. He was found guilty by The FA in December 2002 of impeding an FA inquiry into contract irregularities. Evans was also suspended from the game for 20 months in January 2003 for involvement of the affairs of Boston, in which players' contracts lodged with the FA contained false salary details. Evans was further accused of impeding the inquiry and fined £8,000. Evans lodged an appeal against charges in May 2003, but The FA rejected his appeal later that month and the punishment stood. Evans later pleaded guilty in court to conspiring to cheat the public revenue, and was given a 12-month prison sentence, suspended for two years.
An announcement was made on 20 February 2004 that Evans would return as Boston's manager on 2 March. In September 2005, Evans and four other people connected with Boston appeared in court, denying fraud charges. In November 2005, Evans was given a £1,000 fine, suspended for a year, after admitting to using insulting or abusive words to the match official in a match against Peterborough United in October 2005. On 11 February 2006, he was escorted from Grimsby Town's stadium Blundell Park by Humberside Police at half-time, after he berated the fourth official after being incensed when Grimsby goalkeeper Steve Mildenhall appeared to handle the ball outside his area and was immediately spoken to by a police officer after a complaint of alleged foul and abusive language. After the match Boston chairman Jon Sotnick accused the football authorities of waging a "conspiracy" against his manager. In October 2006, Evans was linked with the vacant Darlington managerial vacancy, but Boston chairman James Rodwell and Evans both denied the link. Also in October, Evans was sent from the dugout after an altercation with Wycombe Wanderers player Tommy Doherty for which he later received a £1,000 suspended fine from the FA. Despite this, which came on top of his conviction for tax evasion, Evans kept his manager's position at Boston, a decision that angered the Boston United Supporters' Trust.
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Re: Richie Wellens
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TLDR
Bakers Arms smells of weird porn film sick buckets. I know as I occasionally cycle through it from my home in the liberal elite of Stoke Newington
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Re: Richie Wellens
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OK ? so that's cleared up what Steve Evans did 10/20 years ago.
Now, back to what Richie Wellens did 24 hours ago ? and his conduct over the course of this season.
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I don't know Wellens personally, but I think the fact he is sexually aroused by grinding gerbils into a savoury paste which he calls 'Richie's Special Sauce' and sells to unsuspecting punters from a pub car park, tells you all you need to know.
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He sells tarantulas in the actual pubs too
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Can you buy that in the shops?
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I've heard some branches of Farmfoods do it around Christmas
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Copied it from Wiki....wow!
I'm just about to copy and paste a copy of the bible for your whiter than white Wellens.
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Well done for passing your cut and paste exam.
Now tell us your opinion
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You can also copy and paste the link to Big Steve?s Wikipedia page rather than the entire entry.
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Care in the community day off I assume,by the way how is a Walthamstow nowadays still a dump ,last I heard the Baker Arms area was .TBF do still have some family still there but they fiollow Spurs.
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Re: Richie Wellens
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We are all well aware of Evans' past, and it is the past. A person who made a lot of mistakes, rightly punished and has matured (at least off the pitch) and learnt to become a better person.
And despite all that he still comes across as a nicer person than Wellens, so it says a lot.
Edited by Sev at 16:01:54 on 17th March 2024
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Re: Richie Wellens
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I never knew any of this about Evans and I'm shocked and appalled by it
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Yeah let's ditch him and get that nice Mr Wellens in.
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Why has he rattled so many fans today?
It?s like when opposition fans get rattled when Steve does fist pumps. Don?t stoop.
If he wants to celebrate being 10th in the league by holding an imaginary trophy then that?s his choice.
The fact little old Stevenage clearly winds him up enough to do it is a mark of respect.
Edited by lopo at 00:40:02 on 17th March 2024
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Re: Richie Wellens
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I've disliked him long before today. Wasn't even there to see what he did or didn't do. ?
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Wasn?t aiming this at you specifically mate.
Just going by the shit on social media.
As pathetic as Wellens was today the reaction on socials has been equally as bad.
If a manager wants to celebrate winning a game by lifting an imaginary trophy when they?re 10th in the league, I?m taking it as a compliment. They saw today as a scalp.
Little old Stevenage, a scalp.
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Re: Richie Wellens
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The 1 in 6-1 on aggregate clearly means a lot to him.
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I've a comment about him in my head but the sensible part of me is going to keep it there.
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I hope a complaint is made to the FA and he gets charged for bringing the game into disrepute. Disgusting behaviour.
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Re: Richie Wellens
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https://www.thecomet.net/sport/24190489.wellens-key-part-post-match-scuffle-v-stevenage/
I assume the will be on a charge now
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This will be put down to the behaviour of Evans in the dugout. I know he wasn't there, but if he had been, it definitely would have been his fault.
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EFL will probably charge us for failing to keep the opposition manager under control...
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Sweeney deserves great credit for his performance, and a medal for dealing with Wellens
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Did it kick off after FT?
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3 minutes added time.
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Confirms what we already know.
Not that we would have scored if we had the correct added time
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Re: 3 minutes added time.
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The weakest referee i've seen down here in years.
We're huffing and puffing, but looks like a few games too many for us this season!
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Yeah Pratley gets booked then can do endless fouls plus deliberately threw back instead of kicking it and nothing happens
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Re: 3 minutes added time.
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That?s the beauty of the man. He was never gonna get booked for slowly rolling the ball back, but it wound us all up.
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I would I insert cheat for beauty.
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I love it when our fans take the moral high ground
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Called me old fashioned. ,could not really.care.
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Me.neither.mate
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Deffo a bent Ref. We were shit though.
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The ref gave the Orient coach the thumbs up in the warm up. That?s all you need to know, embarrassing.
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Re: Match Thread
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Ben Thompson must be wondering what the fuck hes doing here.
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TBH I'm wondering what the fuck half this team are doing here at the moment.
That was relegation bad... thank god we were good earlier in the season.
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Re: Match Thread
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Do you remember how bad we were from 2018-2022?
This is billions times better than that.
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I drank through most of that period to forget
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Yeah that was a shit performance by today's standards but it's still champagne and caviar to four years ago.
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On the plus side
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https://x.com/waspboro1/status/1769029142656196893?s=46&t=itnbzD-LxVE80w6W3cBDgg
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Oliver is cack.
I'd rather we kept Charlie McNeil just to sit on the bench!
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Pratley. There?s a player who would fit in well here
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He's the worst, it'd be brilliant
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Or Norris...
Literally everyone knew Oliver was crap before he signed.
Edited by RockyBottom at 15:35:28 on 16th March 2024
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I miss Danny Rose.
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Sky Sports already fucked us by giving us 24hrs less time, then they fuck us by Pidge being suspended for three games.
Some prick from Sky probably injured Taye so we have ended up with this useless piece of shit in goal again.
Nothing could possibly have gone worse in the preparation for today.
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Re: Match Thread
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Yep - We made sime really great National League level signings in the January window...
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"His distribution is better than Taye".
????????????????????
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And that's without the other sides winning yet. Season slipping away isn't it....
Edited by RockyBottom at 15:22:05 on 16th March 2024
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Re: Match Thread
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We are just timing our good run of form to be the side that goes into the playoff at the last minute. 7 wins in a row at the end of the season should do it :)
Edit: Lincoln and Oxford both winning
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Are Lincoln on steroids or something?
Edited by SFCfox at 15:27:52 on 16th March 2024
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3-0 already, jesus! They really are scoring for fun.
Edited by RockyBottom at 15:26:51 on 16th March 2024
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If they had their current manager at the start of the season they would probably be promoted already!
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I have to say that the first half Saturday was bl**dy awful. Surely Evan's can let them play a little bit of football. We never play out from the back even when the fullbacks are available?
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