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Greatest Stevenage managers ever - Steve Evans
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So quite a simple one really, where does Evans rank amongst the best we've ever had?
Surely got to be up there with GW, and Fairclough.
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All the rimming will stop now.
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Mark Roberts
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Definitely GW for getting us into the promised land of the football league. Every club has that one manager they always go back to for nostalgia and comfort and ours is GW. Love him or hate him he transformed our club and is Mr Stevenage
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Westley. End of.
The man is an absolute GOD and there should really be a statue of him outside the ground.
"Destiny will always take over"
Graham Westley, March 10th 2003
Edited by Phoenix at 10:22:33 on 17th April 2024
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PAUL FAIRCLOUGH the greatest ever
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1. Fairclough
2. Evans
3. Westley
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1) Fairclough.
2) Westley and Evans on a par. The next season or two will determine how that one ends.
Evans is the only actual proper football manager we have had though.
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And Stimmo 4th?
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Stimmo is god level and no one else compares to him so unfair to try.
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Revs.
We have never had any other manager in my lifetime.
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I've forgotten many of these managers spells so hard to rank accurately and could certainly be persuaded to change the order, but in my time as a fan the following permanent managers:
1. Fairclough
2.a. Westley
2.b. Evans
4. Stimson
5. Sarll
6. Dino
7. Revs
8. Hill
9. Taylor
10. Tisdale
11. Sheringham
12. Turner
13. Sampson
14. Wignall (as never managed a game?)
Might have missed someone. Dreyer and Roberts were good caretakers.
Edited by Sev at 15:38:08 on 16th April 2024
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Wignall was here a few months. Around 10 games iirc
You missed Gary Smith?
Edited by Paulio at 16:15:31 on 16th April 2024
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How could I forget him!
I was thinking he was here for like 40 days but that was all pre season before he joined Doncaster. Long time ago.
P8, W3, D3, L2. Not terrible.
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The football was. Full backs not allowed to cross the half-way line. The only man to stop Carl Alford scoring...and he did it again when he signed him at Doncaster.
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1. Paul Tisdale- great football
2. Teddy Sheringham- amazing football and took our attendances over 10k a week
3. Mark Sampson
Boro legends
Cheers,
InvaderOfPitches
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Not to forget Peter Taylor and Dino Maamria.
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How can you leave out Steve Wignall?
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Another chestnut was Wayne Turner.
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Before my time (for better or worse) - first game I went to was under Westley MK I.
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Fairclough is our greatest ever, for that spell of four league titles in six seasons at progressively increasing tiers.
Westley second for getting us a league title, two promotions on the bounce, and five play-off campaigns (if you count the L1 one as primarily his achievement). Also saved us from relegation in 2002-03.
If Evans got us to the Championship, he?d be right on their heels - the higher level has to count for something. But for now he?s a solid third place behind them.
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Westley also relegated us and did a pathetic job in his latest spell. But people ignore that because, well, Westley.
The greatest compliment I can give to Westley is that he won us our only ever HSC title.
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Westley just happened to be in charge at the end when the squad Gary Smith put together got relegated, with no time or transfers to make an impact
Likewise Gary Smith happened to be in charge of the squad Westley put together into the league 1 play offs, despite Smith trying his best to drop us out of them
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"Westley just happened to be in charge at the end when the squad Gary Smith put together got relegated, with no time or transfers to make an impact"
Perfectly proving my point about how because it is GW everyone makes excuses and totally changes the truth. Everything you say above is wrong. GW was in charge for the entire season, including pre-season, with an entire pre-season and season, including two transfer windows, to have an impact, he absolutely was not just in charge "at the end"!
Edited by Chuds at 13:41:34 on 16th April 2024
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I'm going to blame this on my first kid being born in early 2014 so I thankfully didn't see much of the 13/14 season. I thought westley came in during that season.
10 years ago now, the old grey cells aren't what they were now
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Bloody kids.
Just don't do it again (the GW fallacy stuff or the having a kid).
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I do believe however he wasn't able to do much in the transfer window owing to us giving long contracts to the shit Gary Smith brought in. So he was stuck with what we had.
Then Westley being Westley fell out with everyone who wasn't his type of player or didn't buy into his out there ideas (e.g Haber) and it was a recipe for disaster.
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The likes of Tansey and Morais on expensive 3 years deals ?
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More excuses for him. Not his fault in any way shape or form.
You lot are as bad as Liverpool fans.
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I merely appraising his strengths and weaknesses.
Strength - building a squad over a number of years to overachieve on a modest budget.
Weaknesses - managing a team that isn't a squad he has assembled or in a short period of time.
You can't see past the red mist to objectively view anything when it comes to GW and Dino.
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Strength - accounts
Weaknesses - eczema
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RIP
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I always give credit to GW for his achievements with us.
But I also recognise when he is at fault, unlike you Westley-Scousers.
Edit: And can something be considered a strength if you have only ever done it once?
Edited by Chuds at 13:51:19 on 16th April 2024
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We go through this with Chuds every few years and he will never accept that view.
What can be said is Westley isn't a great quick fix manager, such as when he came in for the 4th (?) time and couldn't turn things around. It seems he needs his own type of player to buy into his ethos and methods.
Edited by Sev at 13:31:18 on 16th April 2024
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See my above reply, he was in charge for the entire fucking pre-season and season, not for a couple of months that you GW-lovers always totally incorrectly claim.
An entire season is not a "quick fix".
Get your fucking heads out of his arse and look at what actually happened and how long he actually had in charge.
Edited by Chuds at 13:42:39 on 16th April 2024
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Yes, that's why I said in his 4th spell he wasn't a good quick fix.
And then said he can't do anything if they're not his players, which was largely the case when he followed Gary Smith.
But like I said there is no point bringing this up every few years.
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If Andy is going to spout absolute lies about GW's spell in charge, I am going to provide the truth.
He did amazingly to take us up to L1, but he is also the main man at fault for our relegation from L1, and cannot be excused of all blame and it put on a guy who didn't manage a single game in the season we went down, after we stayed up with that set of players the previous season.
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I wouldn't blame Smith for the relegation. Just that mitigating circumstance at the time that would've made it hard for any manager the following season with their hands tied.
When he was able to rebuild in League Two we then reached the playoffs again and was sadly not able to see how well the next season would have gone building on that because we decided to bring in Sheringham and ruin the next however many years of the club.
Still, we made an excellent choice in Evans and now in a good place.
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I just find it funny how other managers get ripped to shreds if they don't instantly do well and get no leeway for not having their own players etc., yet he had an entire season and failed, yet still gets endless excuses made for his failings and it is all pinned on somebody else by so many of our fans.
A good manager shouldn't only be able to manage players who totally agree with them. A good manager can mould and adapt to manage everyone (or at least the majority). See what Evans did with that godawful squad who was dead and buried, in order to keep us in the EFL, for instance.
But yes, we are in a grand place and the past couple of seasons have been wonderfully reminiscent of 2010-12. Hopefully the next two years are not reminiscent of our previous second and third years in League One.
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You just don?t like Westley. And that?s ok.
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yet he had an entire season and failed
We had survival in our hands up until the latter stages. Then we imploded against MK Dons and threw in the towel.
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The only real difference between Tisdale and GWIII in 2013-14 was that guys like Heslop and Doughty put in more effort than Westbrooke and Upson.
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Westley MK III had a season and a bit in League 1 to turn things around. That would be a luxury at a lot of EFL clubs.
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His achievements far outweigh the negatives. Like him as a person or not he?s on the top of the pedestal with Fairclough.
Evans could get there too. But he?s not there yet. He needs to win something or take us into the Championship for that.
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1 - Paul Fairclough
2 - Graham Westely
3 - Steve Evans
I thought Mark Stimson was a good manager and no doubt he'd have got us promoted at some time, if he of course hadn't taken the Gillingham job.
I'd have like to of seen John Mousinho become the manager once it was announced that Paul Tisdale had gone, with Mark Roberts as the assistant, as I'm sure those 2 would have become decent managers in the future for the club.
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He is top 3.
Probably our only ever proper manager though.
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How many managers have we won the HSC under. That?ll decided who the greatest is imo.
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Gary Smith is the only Boro' manager EVER to get into the L1 playoffs.
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Big G brought the swag. Shameful the players rebelled against his methods because they thought winning every game would be boring.
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He got Pat Agyemang scoring.
And Dani Lopez.
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Cloughy and GW are clear.
Evans may get there one day.
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In terms of league finishes, Evans looks certain to finish below our most successful all time manager, Gary Smith.
Unlike GW and Fairclough we have failed to win a trophy under Evans. So he's not really in the conversation if we're being honest.
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Evans won the L2 runners up trophy last season. I've seen it.
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Well I'll say 'competition' then but for all I know the squad may have won some kind of prize draw on a day out in Margate or similar in the last two years.
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Steve Evans has time to become one of the Elite. Graham Westley got greedy, grass greener comes to mind. Mark smith had it on a plate but threw it away. Paul Fairclough got us on the ladder, therefor in my view was the greatest.
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100%. Without Westley, it?s possible we would have ended up in the FL anyway. Without Fairclough, it could have taken us a VERY long time to get to the Conference, if indeed we ever did
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