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Pidge

By Stevenage fan21/2 12:50Sat Feb 21 12:50:27 2026

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Why oh why has he dropped him.

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By bcb199421/2 13:59Sat Feb 21 13:59:55 2026In response to Pidge Top of thread

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Sweeney has cost us the game.

So has Revs for not starting Pidge

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By Sludgy6523/2 12:14Mon Feb 23 12:14:22 2026In response to Re: Pidge Top of thread

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For me, I'd let Pidge, Goode and Sweeney leave in the summer (Subject to getting replacements) We desperately need some pace at the back. No doubt there will be uproar on here for making such a suggestion.

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Re: Pidge

By Tucks23/2 12:25Mon Feb 23 12:25:49 2026In response to Re: Pidge Top of thread

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Can appreciate your viewpoint. Don’t think it’s as wild a suggestion as you think it is either. Pace is handy in a centre back but if they’re doing their job properly it isn’t the be all, end all.

For as long as Pidge wants to stay he should be here. He drives the culture I feel. Whether he is slowly transitioning from being a starter to a bit part player and how he feels about that is another matter. He’s the leader we’ve needed since Robbo left, he’ll leave a huge void when he leaves. I hope it’s not for some time yet.

Goode may leave for a bigger contract elsewhere, if not he’s the best centre back at the club now. We’d be foolish to let him go without an adequate replacement lined up.

I think it may be time for Sweeney to move on he’s not the donkey some will make out, his style of play and position magnify the errors he makes. He could go somewhere in League Two and play a massive part week in, week out for someone. Wouldn’t surprised to see not so big Steve come calling for Sweens and Pidge in the summer. Whether they go is another thing altogether.

If we have a centre back roster of Goode, Pidge, Freestone, Taylor and AN Other come the start of next season there are far worse scenarios we could be faced with.

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Re: Pidge

By Sev21/2 15:47Sat Feb 21 15:47:34 2026In response to Re: Pidge Top of thread

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I'm sure fans were saying two weeks ago Sweeney has been our best defender for a while and Pidge was terrible (not necessarily you, just in here). Changes weekly, I can't keep up.

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Re: Pidge

By Steve 197021/2 16:29Sat Feb 21 16:29:32 2026In response to Re: Pidge Top of thread

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Not me , tbh even when he was man of the match at home to Peterborough he gave away a certain penalty last minute that was poor decision from him and lucky not to be penalised. I’m not against him , but unfortunately makes too many simple mistakes.

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Re: Pidge

By Balders (BALDOCKBORO)21/2 16:35Sat Feb 21 16:35:50 2026In response to Re: Pidge Top of thread

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Pidge makes fewer mistakes because he rarely tries to etain the ball or pick a pass, the ball is a hot potato.

It's either one touch and sideways under no pressure or a lump.

He rarely travels with the ball.

He rarely tries to turn under pressure to retain the ball.

He rarely plays a 15 yard forward pass,

Sweeney does all of those things, sometimes.

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Re: Pidge

By Steve 197021/2 16:39Sat Feb 21 16:39:56 2026In response to Re: Pidge Top of thread

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It’s not necessarily when he takes the ball out that he makes mistakes, unfortunately he just has more mistakes in him than Pidge and I don’t see him bringing the ball out is worth that . Plus when he loses the ball I don’t think he runs back quickly enough and when he calls for offside he sometimes stops as he does it .

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Re: Pidge

By Balders (BALDOCKBORO)21/2 16:51Sat Feb 21 16:51:41 2026In response to Re: Pidge Top of thread

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I don't necessarily disagree.

Pidge, Goode, Freestone & Sweeney all have their weaknesses.

And with Pidge and Goode's age there needs to be some rotation.

FWIW I'd stick with a back 3 and prefer Goode/Sweeney/Freestone in that setup.

But in a 4 I'd go Pidge and Goode which is harsh on Freestone who will probably be our No.1 defensive pick next season

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Re: Pidge

By Steve 197021/2 16:58Sat Feb 21 16:58:15 2026In response to Re: Pidge Top of thread

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I agree with all of that . Wish we’d have tried to carry on with the system today after the injury and put Phoenix at left wing back. I do understand our need to be defensive and on the whole agree with it . Just sometimes, a little more attacking with changes I’d prefer.

Edited by Steve 1970 at 16:59:05 on 21st February 2026

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Re: Pidge

By Balders (BALDOCKBORO)21/2 17:07Sat Feb 21 17:07:29 2026In response to Re: Pidge Top of thread

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I don't trust Pheonix defensively. You need more than pace to play that role.

Lapses in concentration and lightweight.

You look at the tackles Butler, Saxon and Freestone make down the left touchline, no way do I trust Pheonix to do that.

Happy to be proved wrong.

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Re: Pidge

By Steve 197021/2 17:10Sat Feb 21 17:10:17 2026In response to Re: Pidge Top of thread

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I agree , but at one nil down , with 3 in the middle, definitely worth the risk to keep the same system and be more of a threat going forward although to be fair second half we created chances.

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Re: Pidge

By Whatdoiknow22/2 18:26Sun Feb 22 18:26:17 2026In response to Re: Pidge Top of thread

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Think Saxon was carrying a knock from Port Vale. Noticed during the warm up they was practicing as a back 4 rather than as a 3/5. Did wonder why Pidge couldn’t come on for Saxon and push Freestone as Wingback to keep the system they had played the last 2 games with.

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By Rob SBFC (Big Robbie (SBFC))22/2 23:59Sun Feb 22 23:59:19 2026In response to Re: Pidge Top of thread

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Interesting that nobody on here ever references how the oppo set up. Every formation is bulletproof. We must be 352 442 dull shit. I assume, even though it is sometimes hard to recognise, that Revs et al spend quite a bit of time analysing the opposition.

I maybe wrong though. Maybe they read the thoughts of three bellends on borochat and tweak accordingly?

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Re: Pidge

By Tucks23/2 06:59Mon Feb 23 06:59:47 2026In response to Re: Pidge Top of thread

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I like that our excellent home form is the result of almost every away team being unable to set up for our pitch and gifting us points rather than anything we do.

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Re: Pidge

By Balders (BALDOCKBORO)22/2 19:32Sun Feb 22 19:32:40 2026In response to Re: Pidge Top of thread

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Freestone as a wingback? Have you actually seen him play.

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Re: Pidge

By rdell1522/2 19:06Sun Feb 22 19:06:51 2026In response to Re: Pidge Top of thread

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Believe Saxon always takes part in the shooting drill. And I don't think Freestone is seen as a WB option

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Re: Pidge

By RockyBottom21/2 15:48Sat Feb 21 15:48:43 2026In response to Re: Pidge Top of thread

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In fairness he has been!

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Re: Pidge

By Chuds21/2 14:11Sat Feb 21 14:11:01 2026In response to Re: Pidge Top of thread

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You are an incredible troll, fair play.

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Re: Pidge

By bcb199421/2 15:23Sat Feb 21 15:23:09 2026In response to Re: Pidge Top of thread

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Sweeney had a fantastic match. Didn’t put a foot wrong!

Better?

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By Steve 197021/2 14:03Sat Feb 21 14:03:27 2026In response to Re: Pidge Top of thread

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Yeah massive shock , poor defending from Sweeney - how Pidge is on the bench for this man I’ll never know

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By Tucks21/2 14:01Sat Feb 21 14:01:28 2026In response to Re: Pidge Top of thread

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Dino would never have made that mistake. He’d be costing us games in non-league.

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Re: Pidge

By SFCfox21/2 13:58Sat Feb 21 13:58:53 2026In response to Pidge Top of thread

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What the fuck was that.

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Re: Pidge

By Copes (CDawg)21/2 13:59Sat Feb 21 13:59:42 2026In response to Re: Pidge Top of thread

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Donkey Dan at it again. Genuinely one of the most pathetic things I’ve ever seen

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Re: Pidge

By bcb199421/2 14:00Sat Feb 21 14:00:50 2026In response to Re: Pidge Top of thread

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Baffling how he’s picked over Pidge.

Makes Jamie McCombe look alright

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Re: Pidge

By bcb199421/2 13:23Sat Feb 21 13:23:28 2026In response to Pidge Top of thread

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This is as bad as when Gary Smith dropped Robbo for Ben Chorley

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Re: Pidge

By jayess21/2 14:38Sat Feb 21 14:38:18 2026In response to Re: Pidge Top of thread

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NOTHING will ever be as bad as that.

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By Tucks21/2 13:22Sat Feb 21 13:22:13 2026In response to Pidge Top of thread

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When we’re sitting as deep as we are then his pace shouldn’t be an issue. Which also means Sweeney shouldn’t be starting ahead of him.

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By AndyC21/2 12:53Sat Feb 21 12:53:09 2026In response to Pidge Top of thread

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Everyone's been moaning at how slow he is/ how many mistakes he makes all winter?

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By bcb199421/2 13:24Sat Feb 21 13:24:22 2026In response to Re: Pidge Top of thread

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Sweeney is slower and makes more mistakes

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Re: Pidge

By RockyBottom21/2 12:52Sat Feb 21 12:52:28 2026In response to Pidge Top of thread

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Because like most of the cbs he's been poor recently.

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Re: Pidge

By Balders (BALDOCKBORO)21/2 13:20Sat Feb 21 13:20:27 2026In response to Re: Pidge Top of thread

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Second best defence in the league is "really poor" ?

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By RockyBottom21/2 13:22Sat Feb 21 13:22:30 2026In response to Re: Pidge Top of thread

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What are we basing that on? I'd love to see the 'second best defences' ball retention stats, or are we just basing it on one stat?

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By Balders (BALDOCKBORO)21/2 14:36Sat Feb 21 14:36:29 2026In response to Re: Pidge Top of thread

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Goals conceded. WTF else would we base it on, hairstyles?

(Now 4th best so still good)

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By RockyBottom21/2 14:54Sat Feb 21 14:54:57 2026In response to Re: Pidge Top of thread

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So the fact they repeatadly give the ball back to the opposition means nothing when we are talking about how good a defence is?

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By Balders (BALDOCKBORO)21/2 15:33Sat Feb 21 15:33:27 2026In response to Re: Pidge Top of thread

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The job of a defence is to stop goals.

That's how defenders are judged.

Over the season they've done that better than 75% of teams.

If they could pass the ball nicely they'd be midfielders or defenders at a bigger club earning more money.

And Sweeney is far better at carrying and moving the ball out of defence than his CB team mates, unfortunately there is always a risk attached to being (over)confident as a defender on the ball.

You can't have it both ways.

You either want 'safety first get rid agricultural defending' or you want confident ball playing CBs comfortable recieving under a bit of pressure putting a foot on the ball, looking up, threading passes or driving into midfield with the ball.

Edited by BALDOCKBORO at 15:34:07 on 21st February 2026
Edited by BALDOCKBORO at 15:41:16 on 21st February 2026

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Re: Pidge

By Copes (CDawg)21/2 14:37Sat Feb 21 14:37:50 2026In response to Re: Pidge Top of thread

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He did say “recently”

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Re: Pidge

By Balders (BALDOCKBORO)21/2 14:42Sat Feb 21 14:42:34 2026In response to Re: Pidge Top of thread

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We've won 3 home games "recently".

Statistics eh.

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By Copes (CDawg)21/2 14:43Sat Feb 21 14:43:23 2026In response to Re: Pidge Top of thread

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He said the CB’s have been poor recently lol. You misread it, it’s fine.

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By Chuds21/2 14:48Sat Feb 21 14:48:51 2026In response to Re: Pidge Top of thread

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Which is only partly true. Against Peterborough and Huddersfield we kept clean sheets and they didn't have a single shot on target. Against Vale we were comfortable (and won). But away we have an issue.

Although saying that, dare I say even today we looked unthreatened for the most-part, yet individual mistakes got punished and cost us, yet again. For a good spell after our goal it looked like only one team was going to score and win, and then a defensive fuck-up and everything changed. Which is becoming a theme away from home now. Six straight defeats and conceded three times in each of the past four.

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By Copes (CDawg)21/2 14:54Sat Feb 21 14:54:27 2026In response to Re: Pidge Top of thread

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Yes agreed.

I don’t think Jasper should escape criticism today. Really poor.

Luther’s availability is starting to become very frustrating, perhaps even problematic?

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By Chuds21/2 15:04Sat Feb 21 15:04:03 2026In response to Re: Pidge Top of thread

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By far Pattenden's worse performance for us today, I cannot disagree. He really struggled, maybe his first return to them after spending a few years there got to him mentally?

But I think we can all agree he has been very solid and impressive when he has played for us previously this season so hopefully back to that next weekend!

Edited by Chuds at 15:04:55 on 21st February 2026

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Re: Pidge

By RockyBottom21/2 15:17Sat Feb 21 15:17:02 2026In response to Re: Pidge Top of thread

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Yeah he was uncharacteristicly poor today.

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By RockyBottom21/2 14:53Sat Feb 21 14:53:18 2026In response to Re: Pidge Top of thread

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The problem is, it's nearly relentless pressure all game. The more you have to face, the more mistakes are going to show. Even if you have a solid bank of defenders, there's only so many times you can kick a ball away and it come straight back without conceding.

I don't like the way we set up for away games, but I'll accept our options are a bit limited.

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By Chuds21/2 14:58Sat Feb 21 14:58:38 2026In response to Re: Pidge Top of thread

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I didn't think it was though. Nor do the stats suggest so. Possession was 56-44, we had 11 shots to their 8 (they had five on target to our three).

We started poorly and were poor in our passing, and kept giving up possession easily, and gifted them poor goals thanks to individual mistakes, but overall that was never a performance that looked like they were going to score three times or battered us. And for a good 20-25 minute spell to start the second half we were all over them.

And yet again we had an early defensive injury in an away game, like when Pattenden got concussed at Barnsley, which led to us having to change things up at the back.

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By RockyBottom21/2 15:21Sat Feb 21 15:21:14 2026In response to Re: Pidge Top of thread

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That first half was pretty much one way traffic. Feel like we play that way until something happens. I'll accept we had a decent spell at the second half, when we finally brought a player on with decent movement off the ball (by far one of our biggest issues). In that sense their second was very unfortunate as we were comfortable at that point, but this run of away form really highlights the limitations (enforced on them or otherwise) of the side.

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By Chuds21/2 15:56Sat Feb 21 15:56:43 2026In response to Re: Pidge Top of thread

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It does highlight some limitations, but sadly a club of our stature in L1 is very likely going to have that by this point in the season.

It appears to me that Revs clearly wants to play a back three, signed players (and back-ups) to do so with adequate cover, and with three or four solid CBs, but we have been unlucky with injuries, particularly to FB/WBs, that has prevented us playing our preferred formation (and the one everybody seems to agree is best for us and our most dangerous) for long spells, and in two recent away games injuries to our FBs has also hampered our gameplan.

I am not sure we could do much about it, we have already lost £2mil in the past two seasons so have to be careful with our budget and cannot be bringing in even more cover that was unlikely to be needed, and we cannot afford two top quality L1 players in every position, so some positions we have as cover are going to have had a few inuries in their career (but will have undergone a thorough medical before signing) or will be a bit of a drop in quality compared to the starter in the respective position.

It is annoying and unfortunate, but I honestly believe the squad we had assembled in the summer was very good, as our early season form and results showed, but injuries have hurt us.

Butler, Ahadme, Cornick, Simpson and Freeman all injured long-term. Louis T and Saxon both missed a large period of the season. Luther, Kemp, White, Houghton and Young all missed a bunch of games through injury.

Edited by Chuds at 15:57:52 on 21st February 2026

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Re: Pidge

By rdell1521/2 17:53Sat Feb 21 17:53:12 2026In response to Re: Pidge Top of thread

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I disagree. If he wanted to play a 5 he would have been doing it a lot earlier, albeit Saxon is a more natural LWB than Butler. I think the signings and building of the squad lends itself more to a back 4 and wingers so I think that is Revs' preferred setup. The big issue that everyone has highlighted with the 5 is being unable to get players like Kemp, Phoenix and Chem into the side who carry a lot of our attacking threat.

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By Balders (BALDOCKBORO)21/2 18:42Sat Feb 21 18:42:15 2026In response to Re: Pidge Top of thread

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You only bring Pheonix and Chem in if you intend playing wingers. That's undeniable.

Roberts can do other jobs, (arguably. I'm jot a big fan, too often has no impact).

I think maybe Rev's has been pushed into trying a back 3/5 by results and has seen it can increase our chance creation.

But it doesn't really matter whether it's accident or design, what matters is making it work. And from my perspective as a fan showing that 1 up top is not the future.

442 or 352 I'm not that fussed. What I like is the width and the 2

Edited by BALDOCKBORO at 18:43:29 on 21st February 2026

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By Owen B21/2 18:50Sat Feb 21 18:50:44 2026In response to Re: Pidge Top of thread

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I definitely favour two up top. I hope there's enough in terms of numbers in the squad fit to keep doing that. However, I think I'd prefer a back four where we're not looking to necessarily ask our centre backs to do anything special with the ball. We could then better use some of the other players in our squad, such as Phoenix and Chem

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By rdell1521/2 19:20Sat Feb 21 19:20:12 2026In response to Re: Pidge Top of thread

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I think it's madness expecting our CBs to be the ones to drive us forward. Everything in the midfield is too safe. A lot of our chance creation comes from wide areas in either system so it's whether we can create better chances through Luther/Saxon or Chem/Phoenix/Roberts. It is unfortunate that Phoenix and Chem haven't been able to get in the team since the change of system but the 5 at the back has definitely been working (particularly at home) and it's great to see our WBs looking to beat a man or fashion a crossing opportunity - our wingers tend to play inverted and want to cut in on their stronger foot which often leads to them getting crowded out.

You would typically expect a WB system to be more effective on a wider pitch (where we've traditionally struggled anyway), so it's strange to see us putting it to good use at BHW

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By RockyBottom21/2 20:09Sat Feb 21 20:09:01 2026In response to Re: Pidge Top of thread

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'You would typically expect a WB system to be more effective on a wider pitch (where we've traditionally struggled anyway), so it's strange to see us putting it to good use at BHW'

Absolutely, that's the thing that's confusing me the most!

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By rdell1522/2 14:39Sun Feb 22 14:39:59 2026In response to Re: Pidge Top of thread

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I'm not going to question it if it's working. And I think a lot of our joy at home is down to how the opponent sets up. Would be nice if we could start to see some improvement in how we approach our away games (whether in the same system or finding another way to play) although I'm not sure how much the formation really matters compared to the intent and tactical set up.

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By RockyBottom21/2 16:09Sat Feb 21 16:09:39 2026In response to Re: Pidge Top of thread

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I think a big, mobile target man is fundamental in the summer if we are going to play this way, even if it means sacrificing other players.

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By Chuds21/2 16:16Sat Feb 21 16:16:59 2026In response to Re: Pidge Top of thread

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Agreed. The difference M. Phillips and his superior movement, ball control and passing has made in the past three games has been hugely evident.

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By RockyBottom21/2 16:23Sat Feb 21 16:23:29 2026In response to Re: Pidge Top of thread

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and that's not even his natural position!

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By Stevenage fan21/2 12:54Sat Feb 21 12:54:46 2026In response to Re: Pidge Top of thread

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Really

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By Copes (CDawg)21/2 12:56Sat Feb 21 12:56:34 2026In response to Re: Pidge Top of thread

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He had been poor to be fair.

but he was dropped for Northampton away and we all know how that went. Should be back in the side for me.

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By RockyBottom21/2 12:55Sat Feb 21 12:55:52 2026In response to Re: Pidge Top of thread

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Yes, one goal doesn't change that. If you understood football you would see it.

Kemp is the one we miss. Zero creativity without him in the side.

Edited by RockyBottom at 12:58:27 on 21st February 2026

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By Stevenage fan21/2 13:16Sat Feb 21 13:16:41 2026In response to Re: Pidge Top of thread

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What and you do lol

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By RockyBottom21/2 13:37Sat Feb 21 13:37:42 2026In response to Re: Pidge Top of thread

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Well finally Kemp is on, even if the wrong one went off.

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By RockyBottom21/2 13:39Sat Feb 21 13:39:22 2026In response to Re: Pidge Top of thread

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1-1 straight away. What do I know?...

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