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Have we hit our ceiling? An honest conversation about where we should be.
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I think with all of the discontent going on right now and the back and forth over Revell it's maybe worth having a frank conversation about where we should be and if we have finally hit our ceiling, at least for the next 10 years or so.
Even with how narrow the bottleneck is at the top of the Conference/National League it took us forever to get out of there.
League One is an even tougher proposition despite a slight wider exit upwards.
Maybe this really is it. Maybe we're destined, for a while at least, to be the dull lower mid-table team that every now and then has a burst of form but never quite makes the playoffs.
Is that enough for people?
Given the start we had I'd say no.
Given our size and resources we have, I'd say absolutely.
So where do people think we honestly should be and is this slump merely bringing us back down to earth and putting us into our natural place (for the moment) in the FL?
Lower half of League One for a club of our size is still something to be absolutely proud of.
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Our ceiling is winning the premier league and champions league because that’s a far as any team in the football pyramid can go.
I don’t subscribe to the notion that there’s a ceiling for any club. And that kind of mindset makes the players and especially the manager comfortable with mediocrity.
It’s probably not a coincidence that straight after signing his huge 5 year contract our performances tanked. Less pressure for the manager and players to win games and you become complacent.
Any team can beat anyone on their day. Do that 46 times a season. You’re onto a winner.
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Our fanbase/attendance is more like League Two, but I'd say given our infrastructure and backing we should be able to sustain League One football and once every 5 years or so either flirt with the playoffs or relegation. As is natural in the football lifecycle.
There are teams bigger than us in League Two. There are teams as small as us who have achieved better things. So whilst we can always hope for more, League One is pretty much our natural ceiling.
If you want more excitement then you'll have to suffer a relegation to then be looking at promotion in League Two. Then we become one of those yo yo clubs. Perhaps that is preferable to some than just finishing 14th in League One for 10 years, if they want more entertainment.
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Pretty much, bouncing between L1 and L2, I'd take that as we'd have some good times and some shit times but that's football at our level.
Pushing for championship is tough as we don't have the resources to compete whether we like it or not and Phil won't risk his money or the club on a dream that would cause more damage than good long term.
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The problem is that we’ve got horrible 1970s artex on our ceiling and we’re just waiting for it to become fashionable again.
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Along with the asbestos, underrated.
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Gary Smith was your asbestos: harmful and unnecessary.
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That was Sheringham
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Give it time, trust the process...
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Bouncing between League 1 and League 2 for the next 10 years is my prediction.
Very occassional good L1 season flirting with the promotion spots, but also in reality a relegation to L2 and a couple of years back there rebuilding is equally likely.
As long as we stay out of the National League and bankruptcy.
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I miss the non-league days.
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Same. Rose coloured specs maybe? I only saw the 3 good years before we went into L2.
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Totally agreed. I think these little charges we have up to the top of League One are good morale boosters but nothing more at least for a while.
The money from flirting between these league though, and the growing crowds, should help us build for a proper push maybe in 10 years or so.
With that in mind I feel like I'm starting to, begrudgingly, accept maybe Revell is what we need. He'll give us these bursts and then bury is in average.
It will exciting flashes and absolute boredom but it will keep us in League One.
If we go down to League Two though we'd need a change as I just can't see him leading a promotion charge.
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