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Here are some snark-free comments/questions for the critics on Borochat. I'm really trying to understand your thinking, as I can't get my head around your reasoning for much of the criticism.
Sure, no problems with individual match performances being criticised and we're all disappointed when we lose.
If we sack Revs:
- Who do we appoint?
- Would a manager at L1/L2 standard get a better tune out of the players?
- Remember Tisdale?
- Also remember, he may be the one presiding over a pretty stinking run, but he's also the guy that put us on a fantastic run early in the season. Isn't this just recency bias?
We should have brought in a goalscoring striker:
- Who is loaning out/selling a goalscoring striker?
- If one was available, why would they come to us?
- Criticism of Cornick - wasn't the point trying to get more out of Reid who *is* a goalscorer? Either by playing up with him or enabling us to rest him
I'm honestly trying to get my head around what happens next in the thinking of you guys, as it doesn't really sound very realistic to me
A reminder - we're currently 9th with games in hand on both above. For the more pessimistic - we're 10 points off the relegation zone and only need around 8 points to be typically safe, so unlikely we get sucked into any relegation fight
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It’s anti-football. Tactics from the dinosaur age. People are heartily sick of it. You may as well go and sit in the cemetery on Saturday afternoons or Tuesday evenings. It’s the same experience
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Results recently have been disappointing and well below par.
At the same time, I can't see us making a change before the end of the season.
I think a far more likely outcome is we finish 14th/15th, have a big clear out in the summer, and see where we are at Christmas.
Paying out that 5 year contract won't be cheap. So long as we aren't at serious risk of relegation, I can't see anything changing any time soon.
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I honestly think there will be clear break clauses / performance clauses in that 5 year contract, so wouldn't necessarily think it would be that expensive to change manager
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I think people are just finding us a difficult watch at the moment.
I don't know why there has been such a drop off in form and performances from the start of the season, but it seems to be the way we are being set up to play rather than the abilities of the players we have available.
I am acutely aware that Revs is likely to at least see out the rest of the season, so there is not much point calling for him to be sacked. I do also wonder who would be available/interested and a better option to replace him.
Bringing in a goalscoring striker in January was a bit of a stretch and I'd probably argue there wasn't an urgent requirement to throw money at the situation because I don't really fear the possibility of us going down (we SHOULD be able to scrape enough points to stay up comfortably) so I'm glad there was no panic buying.
There seems to be an accepted opinion that the league this year is of poorer quality so although our position looks good, it isn't seen us so much of an achievement.
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I didn't watch today's game. But it sounded like and looks by the stats that we actually created a fair few chances. So, presuming it was more entertaining to watch.
Would you want to keep the two up front? We will create more, but concede more. And, as you say, there's very little chance of a relegation fight (I agree with you there), so maybe no harm in being a bit looser and playing with the handbrake off more?
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There has been plenty of time/opportunity to play more freely given our early league position. I'm not sure we can afford to do that now.
I don't have a preferred formation or style of play (although I quite like the 5 at the back). I would just like to see some evidence that there has been actual consideration around how we set up depending on who we are playing, how we are playing, and who we have available (and their form etc).
Yes, fans don't know everything, and you'd expect most licensed coaches to have a better idea on tactics (especially when they work with the players all week), but on many occasions there have been calls for certain players to get more game time or be utilised in a certain way that looked glaringly obvious (i.e. Phoenix).
I can accept poor results, a winless run etc, but at times during this run that started in October, changes of formation/style and rotation of players have been lacking, and questionable in their timing when they do happen. If I feel the players have given their all and we have tried everything to get a result, I will walk away happy every time.
Injuries happen, every club has to deal with that. And, okay, our squad might not be the bigger or most talented. But too often performances have fell short of the minimum expected
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On Phoenix - I don't think he's defensively good enough to play wing back in L1. So, I understand why Revs didn't put him on after injury last weekend. Given that, I don't see how he fits into playing 5 at the back at all. I would like to see more of Phoenix, he's looked the most dangerous player in more than just glimpses when I've seen him in action. To get game time, I think that would mean going back to 4 in defence. So, I'm a bit miffed as to which formation is the best for us
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Agreed. I was more referring to earlier in the season. I think he was worth a go a WB last week but that's just my opinion. Can't say one way or the other until I've seen it for myself.
We obviously recruited in the summer to play with wingers. I thought the signing of Campbell was strange on his part and quite ambitious on ours. I didn't see him as a fit for our style of play, however there have been some glimpses from him as there have with Phoenix. It would be unfortunate for both if there was no place for them because of the formation but it's about getting the best out of the team/squad. Campbell did seem to enjoy coming on in the 10/free role at Barnsley.
I personally think we are better going forward through our FBs which is part of the reason that I like the 5 at the back (provided we have the players available). Even when Campbell and Phoenix had a run in the squad, there weren't enough bodies in the box to encourage putting crosses in - and you certainly won't see much/accurate crossing when it's Bez or Roberts playing wide.
We are nearly 2 years into Revs's reign and he still doesn't seem to know how to get the best out of his key players.
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The game is about winning,im thankful we got our points on the board earlier because if we didn't will could have been in trouble.I posted before I couldn't see where the next win would come from hopefully it will come on Tuesday.
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We all, ultimately, hope we'll start putting some wins together 🙌🏼
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I don't want Revs out YET but I don't like this logic I'm reading that we shouldn't sack him because we're terrified we might get someone worse in. That's a possibility with ANY managerial change.
For me we now can forget the playoffs. Our start of the season was a smash and grab that flattered to deceive. We had a brilliant game plan and a very easy run at the start (compared with who we played when the drop off started). The only team that was an actual challenge in our opening run was Huddersfield and they beat us.
I think the serious issue we need to acknowledge is that Revs just cannot fix a bad situation. This isn't the first time the team's form has just stagnated under him and he's already been sacked by us once before.
This run of poor form has gone on too long for me and while we've seen glimmers of hope and potential, he's failed to then seize on that and build the team.
I don't want Revs out YET...
But the clock is ticking.
(Also can we please stop all this relegation talk! If there's one thing this team can do, it's draw a game. 10-13pts in the last 17 games is perfectly do-able even with this squad.)
Edited by StirlingBoro91 at 21:06:20 on 7th February 2026
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To be fair, I thought re-appointing Revs, after being sacked previously, was nuts! But here we are!
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I was of the same view, didn't want to go back to him and thought it would probably fail.
Then I ate a lot of humble pie until October. He had us knocking it out of the park, we were a steamroller.
Since then we've mostly played like I feared we might.
But, I don't want him out, yet.
If we are to change do it at the end of the season.
Roll the dice and go again next season, might work, might not.
Edited by BALDOCKBORO at 22:02:09 on 7th February 2026
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I don't think many people were thrilled with the reappointment. I was willing to give him a chance based on thinking he'd had time to reflect and learn, particularly under the tutelage of a much more experienced manager at the level. I became quite disillusioned with his style pretty early on but have continued to follow and support the team regardless. I continue to not be a fan (of Revs) and have a few particular gripes, but someone in that dugout does have a clue, otherwise we wouldn't get performances like Peterborough at home. There seems to be a number of ongoing or reoccurring issues so clearly something is wrong and I find myself questioning why they haven't managed to coach around the issues or fix them
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I think the reality is none of us have a crystal ball. How many people thought Evans would do what he did when he came in?
It's all the luck of the draw and too many people are absolute b******s about hindsight.
The grass might be greener, or it might be absolutely scorched.
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I mean, it probably won't be much greener than 9th in League 1, which is ultimately where my head's at! But yeah, didn't expect Evans to do what he did!
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I suppose it is only fair to judge on what has gone before, but someone also has to project into the future based on what is currently happening (and we as fans can't help but speculate or get carried away with short term trends)
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I was relieved when we got Tis instead of Evans. I don't know shit.
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