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Re: Evans gone. Official.
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I for one am pleased he has made this move.
The journey he has taken us on over the last couple of years will leave us with memories that will last our lifetimes.
He leaves with his legacy intact unlike others before him.
Better to have loved and lost than never loved at all as the saying goes.
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Re: Evans gone. Official.
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I think this will be the overwhelming feeling once the dust has settled. The caveat being that it somewhat depends on who comes in.
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Odds
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4/1
Scott Lindsey (Crawley Town)
5/1
Michael Duff
6/1
Gareth Ainsworth; Luke Garrard (Boreham Wood but leaving at the end of the season)
8/1
Alex Revell (Stevenage); Karl Robinson (Salford City); Mark Bonner
12/1
Shaun Derry; Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink; Grant McCann (Doncaster Rovers); Andy Woodman (Bromley)
14/1
Michael Beale; Lee Johnson; Lee Bowyer; Dino Maamria
16/1
Gary Bowyer; Cameron Toshack; Andrew Crofts; Ben Garner; Brian Barry Murphy; Ian Burchnall; Justine Cochrane; Simon Grayson.
20/1
Stephen Bradley (Shamrock Rovers); Danny Webb; Dean Holden; James Rowberry; Keith Curle; Mark Hughes; Mark Warburton; Paul Ince; Damien Duff (Shelbourne)
25/1
Wayne Carlisle; Darren Sarll; Joey Barton; Jonathan Woodgate; Mick McCarthy; Nathan Rooney (Bruno S Magpies); Neil Warnock; Nigel Pearson; Paul Cook (Chesterfield); Paul Hurst (Shrewsbury Town); Graeme Murty
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Re: Odds
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I was listening to the Stick to Football show (Gary Neville, Ian Wright, Jill Scott, Jamie Carragher and Roy Keane) and they were chatting with Les Ferdinand. He was talking about his time as Sporting Director at QPR, and it sounds like Michael Beale was doing wonders there before he left for Rangers. Sounds like he was very well liked by the players. Given what Ferdninand was saying about the financial situation at QPR, he would have been working with a tight budget, as well.
Ian Burchnall is another interesting one. He's a very good coach. He has a few sessions up on the Coaches' Voice website, and they are excellent (some of the best on the site, in my opinion). Not sure what his managerial career has been without looking him up, though.
Edited by AgentEves at 04:15:41 on 18th April 2024
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Re: Odds
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Re Beale would not whether we like it or not we be seen as a come down.
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Re: Odds
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They've just copied them off this website
https://www.bettingodds.com/thesackrace/teams/stevenage
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BIG no to the following
Curle (Failed Everywhere he's been)
Ince (See Curle)
Warnock (Not the future)
Barton (Just no)
McCarthy (No way)
Hughes (Really??)
Hasselbank (Sorry, but no)
Ainsworth (Ha, ha, no)
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Re: Odds
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About time Karl Robinson had a go. He loves the boro.
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I saw Dino in the gym and saw him talking furtively on his phone which can only mean one thing: I'm having 100 large on the nose at 16-1. It's like finding money in the street
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Re: Odds
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Good to see us linked with Barton, I have my suspicions that all those decisions against us were actually the work of women.
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If Barton somehow got the job I think we'd need to check PW is still all there in the head ?
Some interesting names in the mix though.
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The meltdown on here would be cataclysmic!
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Employing Barton would set the club back lower than we were when SE joined.
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God imagine the sort of fans we'd attract.
I'd be happy with Ainsworth, Robinson, or Hasselbank.
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Ainsworth could be. The other 2 no thanks.
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Those fans wouldn't be able to afford tickets, because they've taken away everything from ordinary men like them.
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Westerly Returns
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https://twitter.com/StevenageFC/status/1206192286780076032?t=X4EvCL5077dnfF07-QXjgQ&s=19
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Re: Westerly Returns
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That took me a moment
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Re: Revell Ball is back ?
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Been back for over two years given he is the coach
The players he had at the time had yet to gel.
But back to spouting nonsense and negativity again.
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Re: Revell Ball is back ?
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Ok I apologise for the negativity.
What do you want blind optimism?
Revell was a fantastic manager. I loved his 26% win ratio in league 2!
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Re: Revell Ball is back ?
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Been at the club a while now on the management team.
Thank fuck he's only in temporary charge for 2 games and we are safe from relegation.
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Re: Revell Ball is back ?
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Bit disrespectful?
I'm sure he's learnt a lot over the last two years.
Probably doing the club a favour keeping us ticking over until he joins Evans in the summer.
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Re: Revell Ball is back ?
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Revs is a great guy I have a lot of time for him as a person. Not the biggest fan of him as a manager personally. And personally didn?t like the football we played. Is that disrespectful? Maybe but that?s subjective.
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Re: Revell Ball is back ?
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His managerial spell was not a success and he was rightfully sacked at the time.
He's also been a key member of the coaching set up for our most successful two seasons in well over a decade. He's learnt from our most successful manager since Westley and will have developed his skills a lot in that time.
It's not disrespectful to say that you'd rather we appoint someone else on a permanent basis. I'd rather we went for someone with proven experience at L1 level or higher.
But some of the negativity on here is a bit harsh. He deserves some respect and is more than qualified for an interim role.
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Re: Revell Ball is back ?
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So are you saying you'd be happy if he was reappointed as manager?
I don't dislike him as a person, but wouldn't want him in charge of the team again. God the football was awful.
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Re: Revell Ball is back ?
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Perhaps not but I feel he has grown as a coach and hope he gets a position somewhere in the new set up.
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Re: Revell Ball is back ?
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He's enthusiastic when putting the cones out
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Re: Revell Ball is back ?
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Erm, don't forget he has been working alongside 2 experienced people, Evans and Raynor, who have a decent track record in their past.
Anyway, moving on, I hope it's not the Cowley Brothers, Luke Garrard, or Gareth Ainsworth.
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Re: Revell Ball is back ?
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Cowleys have done Jack shiz since they left Lincoln, no thanks, Colchester might get relegated!!
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Re: Revell Ball is back ?
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Perhaps but doubt he just turned up and swept out the dressing room.
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Re: Revell Ball is back ?
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Based on what?
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Re: Revell Ball is back ?
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How we have played Inc getting promoted and nearly making the play offs.
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Re: Evans gone. Official.
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Can't see a 'non' Championship club having the money to buy Reid. In today's stupid market we have got to be asking £1m+
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Re: Evans gone. Official.
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maybe in January. not now. this dry spell has cost him.
Will probably go to rotherham
Cheers,
InvaderOfPitches
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He was finished here anyway.
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I said it after Saturday. He had no more to offer.
Thanks for the fantastic times. Now we move on
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Re: He was finished here anyway.
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I agree.
But that doesn't mean another manager can't build off that and take us further.
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Re: He was finished here anyway.
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It's just the timing that's pissed me off. I get that he probably wants to look at Rotherham over the next couple of weeks of competitive football, but surely he could have just given the current squad until the end of the season?
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Re: He was finished here anyway.
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Certainly an interesting point of view. Evans is a clever guy and knows football also knows what?s in store more than we do. Maybe he felt he had gone as far as he could and he?s hit is ceiling with the club.
He?s certainly not one to stick around for too long regardless. We are in such a better position than we were 2022 so for that we must all be grateful.
Now it?s over to PW to make the correct decision for the club with the next appointment.
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Re: He was finished here anyway.
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Why would he sign a contract until 2026 if he thought this was a dead end club?
If he was unhappy, signing would make it more difficult for any future employer to justify the compensation to employ him.
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Re: He was finished here anyway.
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I imagine the new contract was based on interested earlier in the season. Midseason was not the right time for him but a new contract for his loyalty he gets extra ££, we get protection over him on a longer deal plus a deal is agreed for a compensation package so the club get a decent amount and makes sure things don?t get messy if someone comes calling which ultimately happens .
Can?t see anyone on football management turning down extra money and extra security in that fickle world even if he knew he had gone as far as he could. Especially if things went south next season bigger payout for him but it?s all speculation only he knows what?s going on his head.
Regardless he?s gone now and we need to move on and do the best for the club. We have a stable, financially secure club with a solid squad thanks to Steve Evans, it?s now down to PW to help build on that and keep it all together we are not in panic mode, like we where a few years back but the next appointment is crucial
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Re: He was finished here anyway.
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We all owe somebody an apology.
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Re: Evans gone. Official.
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Not surprised it's happened.
Surprised it happened so quickly and didn't leak.
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Re: Evans gone. Official.
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I am really surprised and saddened by Steve Evans leaving us. I like many others , thought his fit with us was made in heaven. Geography, smaller club to mould to his vision, no pressure except to keep us in League 1, flexible approach to bringing in players, a chairman to work with having realistic ambitions and most of all an open minded fan base who appreciated him.
If Rotherham have paid Boro compensation they will want results next season.
Welcome to the Rotherham world of pressure Mr Evans, nothing other than promotion will do!!
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Re: Evans gone. Official.
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I wish him well in all he does, and thank him for an exciting journey over the last couple of years?..he?s re-galvanised our club. Thank you Steve.
I also wish him every dodgy referee and refereeing decision that he?s had this year for next season, and an increase in apology emails.
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Re: Evans gone. Official.
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There was always the risk of him having a heart attack like that Richie Wellens, so possibly for the best he moves on.
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Re: Evans gone. Official.
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Westley coming back.
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I hope that would only be as an act for one of the stand-up shows.
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Gutted that he's gone 2 games early but thanks for everything Steve, you've given us hope back.
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Re: Evans gone. Official.
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I don't actually think this is the worst.
I know I have been pretty negative towards Steve in general, but hear me out...
We have grown massively over the last two seasons. Obviously, Steve and his staff have been the ones to take us from the absolute shit, to where we are now, but that hasn't been without the negatives.
I fully, fully appreciate what Steve has done to turn the club around, but I absolutely will not miss all the bullshit antics that come with it.
Hopefully the last two seasons have shown that this club does have some potential, given how well our crowds have improved with some sustained success, and we are in a pretty good position to recruit a good calibre manager who can stabilize us in League One.
Now is the time for someone who has a track record of stability with a smaller club, and not the time for a gamble. Hopefully Phil has learned that going out and getting the best person available worked with the appointment of Steve, and that saving money on the manager recruitment isn't the strategy for success.
I feel cautiously optimistic that we can take all the momentum of the last two years, find a manager that can keep us competitive in this division, and enjoy success without the bullshit.
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Re: Evans gone. Official.
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The thing is, Steve suited us as a club perfectly. His attitude, his style of play, his recruitment. It was like watching the Westley glory days again.
IMO we need a manager in the same mould. That is how we get success at this club.
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Re: Evans gone. Official.
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that is quite a big mould.
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Re: Evans gone. Official.
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So you're saying we should definitely sign Graham again.
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Re: Evans gone. Official.
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Haha. No. But our club has an identity, and I'd like a manager who works with that, rather than trying to play like Arsenal on a Stevenage budget.
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There's probably a middle ground between being overly reliant on long ball huff-and-puff football, and trying to play like Arsenal.
Playing ultra-direct will only take us so far.
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Re: Evans gone. Official.
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I want a totally mediocre replacement (which is what will probably happen at best) but no 'bullshit antics' PLEASE
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Re: Evans gone. Official.
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We have every reason to be optimistic in terms of everything but the need to acquire a new manager, and on that front I am very, very, very pessimistic. Walking around with a THE END IS NIGH sandwich board pessimistic. Grateful we still have a minimum two season of League football pessimistic.
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DON'T WORRY WALLACE IS GR8 AT APPOINTING MANAGERS
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Yes. I was hoping we will have learnt our lesson not to hire an inexperienced cheap option*, but then with Mousinho being such a success at Portsmouth fear it might make us still go down that route. But it's different for a small club like us.
As we have grown in stature as a club I think we will have a wider pool of candidates to choose from and some proper experienced managers may be looking to us.
*without being reckless with finances of course.
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I'd prefer someone young and inexperienced to a persistent old boy failure.
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Agreed.
Phil doesn't seem like an idiot. I'm sure he's learned something from the past 10 years.
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I was thinking more like someone like Cowley than say Alan Pardew. They don't have to be old and had twenty clubs that got relegated.
Just someone who has been competitive in League One or Two. A promotion on their CV or playoff experience etc.
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Agree with most of this, especially given how things ended at Gillingham. He's left the club in an immeasurably better place than when he came in and likewise the club gave him the platform that helped to rebuild his reputation.
Hopefully PW and LH have a better idea of what to look for in a manager now given some of the past appointments.
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Re: Evans gone. Official.
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Would Steve Morison be a bad option? Sutton look like they?re going down but he?s done really well to turn their season around.
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were they going up then?
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Ha! Well, they were doomed to certain relegation which has been delayed by winning 4 in a row, then drawing their last game.
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He'd certainly make my shortlist.
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This is very sad news, but I totally understand why he has left to join a bigger club and more money offered per week.
He did this when at Mansfield, he immediately resigned to take over at a bigger club, Peterborough. Can't be angry at the man for taking the job at a club that pays higher than his most recent club.
Who will he sign from us in the summer, who do you reckon?
Who should we get as the new manager for next season? Please, not Alex Revell, as he will only lead us down to a relegation fight again. Who would you like to see as new manager?
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Expect Pidge and Reid as a minimum I would imagine. It?s what he does he?s very much in the Redknapp mould in that sense so many of the team have played for him before and probably will again
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Mcdonald, L.Thompson, N.Thompson, Butler, perhaps too.
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All of our players worth keeping are contracted till 2025, so at least we£d get a fee if he decides to raid us.
I imagine he will try for Reid and Pidge.
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Doubt it. We?ll just offload for free to get rid of them for the new manager.
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Surely Reid will have a championship suiter this summer?
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I can't see Reid getting a championship club realistically
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Before he left I would have thanked him for the great times over the last couple of years.
But now he can do one ??
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His new contract had a compensation package in there which Rotherham met and he wanted to go by the sounds of it.
Reynor gone aswell and Revs back in charge. Interesting to see who comes in next but worrying times
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Rotherham. For fuck sake.
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Well, someone doesn't fancy our chances next season then.
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Can?t believe it.
Hope Pidge is tied down to a long term deal.
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Evans was tied down to a long term deal.
Means nothing if a club is willing to pay the compensation
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Very true.
At least we got better compensation than we would have for Evans otherwise. Would hate for him to strip the best players from the team on the cheap/free though. And I wouldn?t put it past him doing just that.
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That's just knocked him down the greatest managers list then
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Devastated.
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Who would you all want in charge then. Not many available?
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Ah, the excitement of Phil Wallace picking a manager.
Hope Keef is dusting off his CV
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Re: Evans reaction next season .
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Wonder what reaction he will get when he comes back to the lamex
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We can sing Sad Scottish Bastard like we mean it again now
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A good one hopefully.
It's what makes us different to clubs like Mansfield who threw torrents of abuse at him.
We have had two fantastic years, promotion, a competitive league one season, fa cup memories. He has been a great manager and whilst it's shame he has left, that's football.
I'll be applauding him back. And then disagreeing with his post match interview about the referee.
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The way he?s gone about it irks me a bit (he could have waited until the end of the season) but the overwhelming feeling towards him is positive.
Assume there was perhaps a ?clubs in a higher division? clause in his deal which meant it had to be done before Rotherham aren?t a club in a higher division any more.
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I think in both parties interest to make it a swift move if that it what was going to happen. No point saying can you see out the last two pointless games.
It is a shock but it is what it is.
Edited by Sev at 13:43:24 on 17th April 2024
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It gives him a chance to look at the Rotherham squad for a couple of games, before coming in and buying half our squad
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This is a serious problem. We need to get someone good in asap otherwise we?re going to have another shit transfer window. If either of these two things happen (shit manager / shit window), I can?t see us finishing next season above the relegation zone.
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Dooooooomed I tell ya.
FFS get a grip.
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The only plus point is the fact we have time to make a decision and it?s not a knee jerk mid season one.
Really not sure on who will take over or who I want. Really worried for next season now already.
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Are you writing off this season then? We need someone to come in and get us a 5-0 win on Friday night!
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I think PW has written off this season based on his statement.
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#StevenageFC confirms that Steve Evans has left his role as First Team manager to join Rotherham United, effective immediately.
— Stevenage FC ?? (@StevenageFC) April 17, 2024
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Well I?m gutted and feel utterly sick. I was so looking forward to next season. Why would Evans go? I thought he was happy here and enjoying the project??? Really unhappy to hear this, it feels wrong. I know football is fickle and nobody stays in post long, but I really believed he wanted to be here for another season. FFS.
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We can't fall into the trap of thinking our club is special and unique enough that anyone should be grateful to manage it, like Mansfield.
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Not grateful as such, just that he was enjoying the journey and could see another season ahead in a place he was well-supported. I don?t imagine it getting any better for us than Evans/Raynor, they gave me great confidence that they understood the ethos here perfectly and fostered the right spirit.
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As WASP said
His work is done here......
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I think he knows the writing is on the wall here that we'll lose our better players this summer and next season is going to be difficult, its obvious to move somewhere with a bigger budget
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I think there would be only a handful of clubs (Peterborough and Rotherham, or of course any Championship side) that he would have left us for.
For example I don't see him having wanting to leave for Bristol Rovers/Leyton Orient if they'd come in for him.
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