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Betting removed

By craigat8825/11/2021 15:28Thu Nov 25 15:28:33 2021

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BetVictor had the new manager odds for us this morning about 10am when I looked they've now removed the market, Does this mean they know something we don't? Tbh I'm happy with Robbie staying on for a bit longer

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By Owen B25/11/2021 15:46Thu Nov 25 15:46:19 2021In response to Betting removed Top of thread

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I doubt it. Bookies know very little about the lower leagues and doubt they take much money on it. They probably shit their pants because someone put a tenner on one of the candidates.

Edit: Chuds will know much more about how betting companies work.

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By Copeysaurus (CDawg)25/11/2021 16:35Thu Nov 25 16:35:20 2021In response to Re: Betting removed Top of thread

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They know more than you think

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By Owen B26/11/2021 07:03Fri Nov 26 07:03:05 2021In response to Re: Betting removed Top of thread

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That wouldn't be difficult!

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By Themessiah25/11/2021 19:52Thu Nov 25 19:52:31 2021In response to Re: Betting removed Top of thread

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Sky bet done it over a week ago

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Tisdale Favourite at 4/5

By Old_man25/11/2021 23:24Thu Nov 25 23:24:25 2021In response to Re: Betting removed Top of thread

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Evans has slipped to 2nd, he had been 1/2 for a while and now he is 2/1

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A couple of facts about Tisdale

By WASP (Original Mr Wasp)27/11/2021 09:59Sat Nov 27 09:59:22 2021In response to Tisdale Favourite at 4/5Top of thread

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His best friend is Rick Grimes, the actor who is in The Walking Dead. And his uncle is the bloke from Game of Thrones. (Not the little fella)

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By Owen B26/11/2021 07:04Fri Nov 26 07:04:29 2021In response to Tisdale Favourite at 4/5Top of thread

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Tisdale did a good job at Exeter, he's been absolutely shocking elsewhere though (MK Dons, Bristol Rovers).

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By fmboro26/11/2021 10:18Fri Nov 26 10:18:29 2021In response to Re: Tisdale Favourite at 4/5Top of thread

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Knows how to get a promotion from League 2 (Exeter and MK Dons) and doesn't involve teeth-pulling negotiations with Scally.

Doesn't necessarily seem like a quick-fix manager though.

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By AgentEves26/11/2021 17:44Fri Nov 26 17:44:40 2021In response to Re: Tisdale Favourite at 4/5Top of thread

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I'm probably being a little harsh here, and it's not as though we have a wealth of options to pick from, but I don't know how good he is at actually getting teams promoted from League Two. He got Exeter into the playoffs 4 times, but never got them promoted. And with MK Dons, he was managing a team that had just been relegated from League Two, so it's reasonable that they would have a decent crack at returning at the first attempt. He also didn't do very well once they were back in League One. He was pretty consistent with Exeter, but ultimately failed, and hasn't exactly set the world alight since.

He might be a good choice to get us firing in the top half of the table, but I don't know how far he'd actually take us. Personally, I'd prefer we stuck with ROK until a really solid option becomes available. Doesn't seem like chairmen have been clamouring to hire him since he left BR in Feb of this year...

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By Hitchin Callling26/11/2021 17:56Fri Nov 26 17:56:07 2021In response to Re: Tisdale Favourite at 4/5Top of thread

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But if we do not want to 1-Pay out compo or 2- Go for the merry go gang , other than Flynn, struggling to think who else ?

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By AgentEves26/11/2021 20:30Fri Nov 26 20:30:31 2021In response to Re: Tisdale Favourite at 4/5Top of thread

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ROK's at the wheel. I see no immediate need to hire someone just for the sake of it.

As long as ROK is keeping the ship steady in the interim, I'd much rather we carried on until a decent candidate becomes available, rather than just hiring the best of a bad bunch (assuming we don't like any of the available options).

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By Sev26/11/2021 19:25Fri Nov 26 19:25:53 2021In response to Re: Tisdale Favourite at 4/5Top of thread

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I checked to see where Mark Moseley was these days. Turns out he's doing nothing at Aldershot.

Daryl McMahon still an option.

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By FootyIQ (HT-FT)26/11/2021 17:55Fri Nov 26 17:55:34 2021In response to Re: Tisdale Favourite at 4/5Top of thread

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If we achieved consistent top half finishes and playoff challenges every year with success or not I think that would be quite refreshing

We won’t make them this year so there’s no pressure just build something good for next season must be the plan

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By AgentEves26/11/2021 20:51Fri Nov 26 20:51:47 2021In response to Re: Tisdale Favourite at 4/5Top of thread

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So I was under the impression that Tisdale took Exeter to the playoffs 4 times and didn't get them promoted, but it turns out that's completely incorrect. Maybe everyone else knew that, but I just looked up his record and realised I was completely wrong! haha

2006-07: finished 5th in the Conference, reached the Playoff Final, losing 2-1 to Morcambe. They finished 7th the year before, and 6th the year before that, so he was starting with a decent foundation when he took over.
2007-08: finished 4th in the Conference, won the Playoffs and was promoted to League Two.
2008-09: finished 2nd in League Two, promoted to League One automatically.
2009-10: finished 18th in League One.
2010-11: finished 8th in League One.
2011-12: finished 23rd in League One, was relegated to League Two.
2012-13: finished 10th in League Two.
2013-14: finished 16th in League Two.
2014-15: finished 10th in League Two.
2015-16: finished 14th in League Two.
2016-17: finished 5th in League Two, reached the Playoff Final, lost 2-1 to Blackpool.
2017-18: finished 4th in League Two, reached the Playoff Final, lost 3-1 to Coventry.

Obviously he got them promoted from the Conference and then achieved a back-to-back promotion, going one better than Westley with an automatic promotion from League Two. Pretty inconsistent in League One before being relegated, then it was pretty mediocre for 4 seasons in League Two. Never looked like getting into a relegation battle, but I suspect those 4 seasons were pretty boring from a fan's perspective, with no real evidence of improvement (at least in terms of results). Obviously we don't know the ins-and-outs of those 4 seasons, though.

Personally, I'd rather we waited for someone on the rise, rather than someone who was sort-of good a few years ago. I'd almost rather have Westley back if we're going for managers that used to be good but have failed pretty much everywhere else since.

Edited by AgentEves at 20:52:05 on 26th November 2021

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By Paulio26/11/2021 21:56Fri Nov 26 21:56:15 2021In response to Re: Tisdale Favourite at 4/5Top of thread

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Not my first choice but he’s gonna fit in fine I think…

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By AgentEves26/11/2021 22:12Fri Nov 26 22:12:31 2021In response to Re: Tisdale Favourite at 4/5Top of thread

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Who's your first choice, out of curiosity?

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By Paulio26/11/2021 22:15Fri Nov 26 22:15:18 2021In response to Re: Tisdale Favourite at 4/5Top of thread

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Luke Garrard would have been my first choice.

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By AgentEves26/11/2021 22:23Fri Nov 26 22:23:54 2021In response to Re: Tisdale Favourite at 4/5Top of thread

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Yeah, that's legit. I agree. A manager on the way up.

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By Paulio26/11/2021 22:26Fri Nov 26 22:26:31 2021In response to Re: Tisdale Favourite at 4/5Top of thread

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Unfortunately from what I’ve seen and heard, we aren’t interested in investing a “larger sum” in a manager (experience, or great potential) so we’re relying on someone out of a job.

Not sure many of the names that have popped up are that exciting. But Tisdale seems to have done a fairly decent job at clubs slightly bigger than us.

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By AgentEves26/11/2021 22:32Fri Nov 26 22:32:13 2021In response to Re: Tisdale Favourite at 4/5Top of thread

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This is the problem with the Tisdale and Evans appointments... I don't feel genuinely excited at the prospect of either. They're both 'fine'. With Evans there's a good chance of success, but it feels a bit like selling our soul to the Devil. On the other hand, Tisdale is a far less controversial choice, but there's likely a lower chance of success.

Given how much money Wallace has wasted on shit managers over the past few years, you'd think he'd just say 'fuck it, I'm not making the same mistake again' and put his hand in his pocket. Instead, it seems that he's trying to not make the same mistake again (of hiring someone inexperienced) but still doesn't want to put his hand in his pocket.

Maybe he's releasing the Evans/Tisdale rumours as distractions and we are actually pursuing Garrard. That's probably wishful thinking, though.

Or maybe it's secret option number 4, someone none of us are talking about.

EDIT: While everyone has their price, it might be difficult to lure Garrard away from BW. He's got a pretty solid gig there, with no real threat of being sacked. He also played 140 games for them, over 5 years, and has been manager there for 6 years. No doubt he'd have formed quite an affinity with them over that time, so probably doesn't want to blow that up for an option that's only marginally better, no matter how much money is on the table. If we were a bigger team (similar to Swindon, Bristol Rovers, etc) then it would probably be more feasible.

Edited by AgentEves at 22:35:28 on 26th November 2021
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By Paulio26/11/2021 22:41Fri Nov 26 22:41:42 2021In response to Re: Tisdale Favourite at 4/5Top of thread

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If you look at the managers he’s hired that have experience at the level we’re at they do fairly well.

Stimmo - experience at top non league level.
Westley MK II - Experience at our level.

Some that have done “ok” have maybe had experience but not recently(or experience but not enough) - Taylor, Dino,

Others without experience and flopped - Smith, Revs, Turner, Sheringham etc etc etc etc.

I’m hoping that Tisdale fits into the top level, or at worst the second group.

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By jayess26/11/2021 17:53Fri Nov 26 17:53:47 2021In response to Re: Tisdale Favourite at 4/5Top of thread

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He won back to back promotions with Exeter. Conference to League One (finished 7th).

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By AgentEves26/11/2021 17:58Fri Nov 26 17:58:18 2021In response to Re: Tisdale Favourite at 4/5Top of thread

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Just came back to edit my post after reading about that in the link posted below. Didn't realise that. Getting out of the Conference isn't easy, and then getting back-to-back promotions, and a solid finish in League One, is exactly what Westley accomplished with us. Maybe he's their version of Graham Westley, and that he was never really given enough time with the clubs he managed after Exeter.

Reading that he got back-to-back promotions makes me feel a little more confident that he could be good. Especially given that Wallace will likely give him a decent length of time to sort things out. He would be inheriting a decent enough squad (albeit with some definite areas for improvement) and ultimately, it's a squad that seem capable of (and more importantly, well suited to) playing a more pass-focused style of football. It's not like he would have to completely tear the whole thing up and rebuild, just needs to add a few quality players in January.

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By Freemo26/11/2021 19:12Fri Nov 26 19:12:09 2021In response to Re: Tisdale Favourite at 4/5Top of thread

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Weren't his Exeter usually half decent to watch in League 2? I think that's a good start. It shouldn't be the limit of our ambitions but would be a step up from simply continuing to exist as a League club.

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By AgentEves26/11/2021 20:53Fri Nov 26 20:53:33 2021In response to Re: Tisdale Favourite at 4/5Top of thread

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Just posted a breakdown of all his seasons with Exeter. Seems like there was a pretty bleak patch in the middle. Relegated from League One and then 4 seasons of mid-table finishes.

Better than what we have now, sure, but not much better than what we were getting with Sarll.

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By jayess26/11/2021 21:05Fri Nov 26 21:05:50 2021In response to Re: Tisdale Favourite at 4/5Top of thread

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Er...two promotions and the playoffs better.

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By AgentEves26/11/2021 21:09Fri Nov 26 21:09:33 2021In response to Re: Tisdale Favourite at 4/5Top of thread

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Yeah, after 5 seasons of utter dross by the looks of it.

Think about it... imagine when Westley was here after PNE, when we got relegated from League One... if we finished 10th, 16th, 10th and 14th, do you think we wouldn't have been calling for Westley's head?

We finished 10th and then 16th under Sarll, and then sacked him. So we wouldn't have even made it the full 4 seasons.

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By jayess26/11/2021 21:36Fri Nov 26 21:36:25 2021In response to Re: Tisdale Favourite at 4/5Top of thread

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It's an argument, but doesn't necessarily tell the whole story. He had to sell his best players after their League One 7th finish and rebuild the team. Maybe he didn't get it right.
Smith had the same challenge, but he had money to do it with, whereas Exeter were perennially skint.
I'm not saying he is Jurgen Klopp, but he is 46 (I think) with three promotions on his CV. And we aren't Liverpool.
He might be a fit.

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By AgentEves26/11/2021 21:38Fri Nov 26 21:38:57 2021In response to Re: Tisdale Favourite at 4/5Top of thread

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Yeah, I agree. I'm not opposed to it, and as I said further down, I'd rather Tisdale than fatty Evans who a) is a cunt (and not in a good way) and b) would almost certainly completely dismantle the team. A better CV, sure, but there's a lot of baggage coming with him.

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By Chuds26/11/2021 21:53Fri Nov 26 21:53:31 2021In response to Re: Tisdale Favourite at 4/5Top of thread

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Evans would, IMO, come in and see immediate and longer term success. That is just what he does. Lots of shit comes with him, but he is a top manager. And dare I say I think we may even greatly benefit from him coming in and changing the losing culture we have had for years, which he would come straight in and do.

Tisdale would be a slower burn, but at the very least is am experienced manager who knows the level, which is what everyone has been clamouring for.

I would love it to be Evans, but if Tisdale then we could have done a lot worse.

Either way, the timing is ideal. Will have been watching us recently, will be there tomorrow, gets to take charge without any pressure at Sutton midweek and can then get a nice win live on BBC with the players keen to impress. Big R3 draw worth £1mil+ to fund our promotion next year. Lovely.

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By AgentEves26/11/2021 22:22Fri Nov 26 22:22:08 2021In response to Re: Tisdale Favourite at 4/5Top of thread

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"Either way, the timing is ideal. Will have been watching us recently, will be there tomorrow, gets to take charge without any pressure at Sutton midweek and can then get a nice win live on BBC with the players keen to impress. Big R3 draw worth £1mil+ to fund our promotion next year. Lovely."

Very, very good point. And inheriting a squad that isn't total garbage, too.

"Evans would, IMO, come in and see immediate and longer term success. That is just what he does. Lots of shit comes with him, but he is a top manager. And dare I say I think we may even greatly benefit from him coming in and changing the losing culture we have had for years, which he would come straight in and do."

You're likely right. I'm just not as keen about the style of football we'd play under Evans. (Although, to be fair, I'm basing that on what I've been reading on here. I can't actually recall from memory what his teams generally play like.) I think the idea of stripping the whole team back and rebuilding it again (which is always a gamble) just feels like such a chore. It means at least another season of grinding and rebuilding. I'd really like to have some consistency of players over a few seasons, because it's been really hard to have favourite players in the past few seasons. That being said, the most important thing is winning, so I really don't give a fuck if we're winning games.

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By jayess27/11/2021 08:50Sat Nov 27 08:50:46 2021In response to Re: Tisdale Favourite at 4/5Top of thread

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AE: 'You're likely right. I'm just not as keen about the style of football we'd play under Evans. (Although, to be fair, I'm basing that on what I've been reading on here. I can't actually recall from memory what his teams generally play like.)'

What he does, by and large, is win football matches. And if we are honest that's what we all want above anything else.
If Phil does land him he certainly won't be a cheap option.

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By SFCfox27/11/2021 09:28Sat Nov 27 09:28:18 2021In response to Re: Tisdale Favourite at 4/5Top of thread

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"What he does, by and large is win football matches"

Does he?

I was under the impression that Evans does well with teams that have a lot to spend.

Honestly, i really don't get all the hype.

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By jayess27/11/2021 10:14Sat Nov 27 10:14:18 2021In response to Re: Tisdale Favourite at 4/5Top of thread

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Yes, he does. His record speaks for itself. Crawley had a few quid but I don't believe Rotherham were throwing big money about when he took them up two divisions.

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By SFCfox27/11/2021 10:19Sat Nov 27 10:19:26 2021In response to Re: Tisdale Favourite at 4/5Top of thread

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Rotherham were way below their level in League 2.

I don't know all the facts and figures but i'd much prefer Tisdale.

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By jayess27/11/2021 11:23Sat Nov 27 11:23:04 2021In response to Re: Tisdale Favourite at 4/5Top of thread

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With respect, that doesn't stand up as an argument. Luton were way below their level in the Conference (it so hurts me to say this) but it still took them several years to get out. The facts ands figures on Evans are easy to find; he's a winner.
Now, he may not be a lovely chap, and I wouldn't want him to marry my sister, but Phil's approach is a seriously ambitious move (at last) and one we should applaud.
We may end up with Tisdale, and I wouldn't mind that either, but not because he is allegedly a good guy.
Revs is a top bloke but, sadly, a crap manager.

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By SFCfox27/11/2021 12:13Sat Nov 27 12:13:27 2021In response to Re: Tisdale Favourite at 4/5Top of thread

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Of course it's a valid argument. The likes of Rotherham, Luton and Coventry all drift back to their natural position in the end because money talks. A player wouldn't think twice about joining Rotherham over Stevenage.

Can he cut it with a team that doesn't have two pennies to rub together? I'm not so sure.

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By jayess27/11/2021 12:20Sat Nov 27 12:20:28 2021In response to Re: Tisdale Favourite at 4/5Top of thread

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Can he cut it with a team that doesn't have two pennies to rub together?

Would you like to give me a list of managers, preferably available, who regularly do?
There is no substance to your point. Dislike him because he behaves like a twat by all means, but his results speak for themselves.

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By Jas7927/11/2021 13:41Sat Nov 27 13:41:13 2021In response to Re: Tisdale Favourite at 4/5Top of thread

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Can he cut it with a team that doesn't have two pennies to rub together?

Based upon what Wallace has said, his expectations of automatic promotion etc I suspect our budget is around mid table. But then that's just guessing based on the limited info we have to go on.

Think he suggested we were between 10 and 14th in 'budget league table' a few years back. Then again it is probably peanuts compared to the high spenders of the division and not much more than those with the lowest budget.

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By Owen B27/11/2021 10:21Sat Nov 27 10:21:57 2021In response to Re: Tisdale Favourite at 4/5Top of thread

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There's pros and cons to both Tisdale and Evans. I would much prefer Tisdale as a person. I can't particularly get behind Evans' antics, such as pitch side rantings at referees and fourth officials, let alone the "other stuff".

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By AgentEves27/11/2021 17:58Sat Nov 27 17:58:35 2021In response to Re: Tisdale Favourite at 4/5Top of thread

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It's the bullshit on the sideline that irks me. He's a 60-odd year old bloke; he should have learned how to act with some decorum by this point. No issues with him being a cunt, but I CBA with every referee hating us and giving everything against us because they've got Fatty Evans in their ear the entire time.

Not to mention the fact that he can't manage the team when he's suspended for not being able to control his fat mouth.

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By AgentEves27/11/2021 08:59Sat Nov 27 08:59:13 2021In response to Re: Tisdale Favourite at 4/5Top of thread

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Agreed, and while beggars can't be choosers, I would just prefer to find someone who can win matches but also play a brand of football that's enjoyable to watch. Again, though, maybe Evans offers both, he just doesn't seem like the sort of bloke who's brand is silky football.

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By Chuds26/11/2021 22:43Fri Nov 26 22:43:36 2021In response to Re: Tisdale Favourite at 4/5Top of thread

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I don't necessarily think he would rebuild the whole squad FWIW, he would just not let the current lot have it as easy or be able to take the piss as much as I very much imagine it was under Revs. I may be wrong but I just cannot see that he laid into them or really worked them, I reckon he would have been too matey with them, whereas Evans would have the authority and would demand things of them and would push them a lot harder.

I may be totally wrong with that, but it is the impression I always got.

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By AgentEves26/11/2021 23:15Fri Nov 26 23:15:14 2021In response to Re: Tisdale Favourite at 4/5Top of thread

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"I may be wrong but I just cannot see that he laid into them or really worked them, I reckon he would have been too matey with them, whereas Evans would have the authority and would demand things of them and would push them a lot harder."

I think you're spot on with this.

I also don't think he actually knew how to improve them. I know there's only so much you can take from the post match interviews, but the whole 'we just have to work hard' thing was clearly the extent of his footballing knowledge. There's only so many times you can turn up to practice, do aimless drills and make everyone graft, before people will lose interest.

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By Freemo26/11/2021 22:53Fri Nov 26 22:53:04 2021In response to Re: Tisdale Favourite at 4/5Top of thread

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Reports of players enjoying going into training in the middle of a run of getting bent over every week? I'd say it's a fair assumption.

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By Freemo26/11/2021 22:36Fri Nov 26 22:36:19 2021In response to Re: Tisdale Favourite at 4/5Top of thread

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I thought his Rotherham side played some really nice stuff.

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By Paulio26/11/2021 22:05Fri Nov 26 22:05:18 2021In response to Re: Tisdale Favourite at 4/5Top of thread

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Evans can fuck off.

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By Rob SBFC (Big Robbie (SBFC))26/11/2021 21:55Fri Nov 26 21:55:06 2021In response to Re: Tisdale Favourite at 4/5Top of thread

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Have you been on the poppers again??

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By Sev26/11/2021 21:19Fri Nov 26 21:19:10 2021In response to Re: Tisdale Favourite at 4/5Top of thread

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You know you're shit when 10th, 14th, 10th, 16th seems like a dream at the moment. Snap it up haha.

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By Pete (PeteH)26/11/2021 18:17Fri Nov 26 18:17:09 2021In response to Re: Tisdale Favourite at 4/5Top of thread

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Lots of teams went straight through League Two to be fair. Showed up the farce that was one-up in the first place. It should arguably be three-up too.

The amount of teams that got lucky with one-down too. Went onto bigger and better things of course: Swansea, Brighton...

We'd be mid table Championship if we were allowed up in 96

Edited by PeteH at 18:17:32 on 26th November 2021

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By AgentEves26/11/2021 21:06Fri Nov 26 21:06:04 2021In response to Re: Tisdale Favourite at 4/5Top of thread

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"We'd be mid table Championship if we were allowed up in 96."

Obviously this is conjecture, but I think you're spot on. There was a lot of momentum at that time; the team was on the rise, crowds were pretty good, and the atmosphere was electric. That was prime time for us to hook in those fans with continued success over the following years. In the following season, we were getting crowds up near 6k for home games against fellow promotion chasers Kidderminster and Macclesfield. We could feasibly have continued to grow in size off the back of that, assuming we could have sustained our progression.

I really think we are going to struggle to genuinely increase our crowds for a sustained period. There's just too many alternatives, and your local football club isn't as much a part of the community as it once was. What was cool in the 90s, while the televised Premier League was in it's infancy, quickly became an inferior, and ultimately more expensive, option. Why go watch a bunch of painters and decorators clog around in the Conference when you could watch the drama and top tier entertainment being served up by Arsene's Arsenal, Fergie's Man Utd and Keegan's Newcastle?

I'm slowly but surely coming to the conclusion that we have had our day in the sun. Late 90s to early 2010s was a pretty great 10 or so years, but ultimately our trajectory now seems to be backwards rather than forwards. I genuinely think if we get relegated, we would be completely fucked. I think the crowds will plummet because the ticket prices won't get any cheaper, and while there's a chance we'll challenge at the top of the league, no-one is paying 20 quid to go and watch us play against Leigh RMI and Droylsdon or whoever the Conference equivalent is these days...

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By Rob SBFC (Big Robbie (SBFC))26/11/2021 21:10Fri Nov 26 21:10:44 2021In response to Re: Tisdale Favourite at 4/5Top of thread

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The early and mid 90s and 2009-2012 shirley???

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By AgentEves26/11/2021 21:33Fri Nov 26 21:33:32 2021In response to Re: Tisdale Favourite at 4/5Top of thread

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I mean from 1989 to 1997, we were on a pretty solid upwards trajectory. Things plateaued a bit after that, but that was the highest we had ever been, so probably realistic. Then obviously things got good again in 2009-10 until 2012, as you say.

I think the suggestion that if we had gotten promoted in '96 we'd be a steady Championship team now, is not without merit. We could feasibly have built on the momentum we had, and continued to draw in crowds while the prices were still reasonable and we had that upwards trajectory.

I look at us now and honestly wonder why the fuck anyone would start coming to watch us? The football is dire, the atmosphere is inconsistent and the songs are amateur hour, and to top it all off, you're looking at a 50 quid day out once you've paid for your ticket, had a few beers and had something to eat. I'm struggling to remain interested and I've been supporting the team since '97-ish, so why anyone would start now, I have no idea.

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By Rob SBFC (Big Robbie (SBFC))26/11/2021 21:54Fri Nov 26 21:54:06 2021In response to Re: Tisdale Favourite at 4/5Top of thread

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Victor would’ve fucked us over if we’d been promoted in 96 I reckon

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By Owen B26/11/2021 18:33Fri Nov 26 18:33:07 2021In response to Re: Tisdale Favourite at 4/5Top of thread

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Didn't Yeovil go right up to the Championship? Maybe not consecutive seasons, but they're a smallish club. Mind you, they're National League these days.

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By Rotterdamboro26/11/2021 11:03Fri Nov 26 11:03:49 2021In response to Re: Tisdale Favourite at 4/5Top of thread

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I’m torn. Think we need Evans to come in and give this wretched squad the kick up the arse it needs. But think Tisdale would be better long term

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By Hitchin Callling26/11/2021 11:11Fri Nov 26 11:11:43 2021In response to Re: Tisdale Favourite at 4/5Top of thread

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Currently in advisory role at Colchester apparently. Assume if he does turn up so will Matt Oakley.PW may be going down this route now to avoid the comp and save it for Jan reinforcements ?

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By jayess26/11/2021 11:36Fri Nov 26 11:36:04 2021In response to Re: Tisdale Favourite at 4/5Top of thread

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If Gillingham lose to Portsmouth tomorrow the question of compensation may not arise.
O'Keefe has bought Phil time.

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By Balders (BALDOCKBORO)26/11/2021 11:44Fri Nov 26 11:44:25 2021In response to Re: Tisdale Favourite at 4/5Top of thread

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Sally won't sack him. Too shrewd.

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By Owen B26/11/2021 12:58Fri Nov 26 12:58:16 2021In response to Re: Tisdale Favourite at 4/5Top of thread

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Wouldn't he technically be on contract if he's fired? Like gardening leave. So, no real change contractually in terms of compo, is there?

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By Balders (BALDOCKBORO)26/11/2021 13:44Fri Nov 26 13:44:08 2021In response to Re: Tisdale Favourite at 4/5Top of thread

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If he's fired his contract is terminated and paid up, or an agreement on the extent to which is paid up is hammered out.

If he's put on gardening leave, they'd still have a contract over him.

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By Owen B26/11/2021 14:46Fri Nov 26 14:46:18 2021In response to Re: Tisdale Favourite at 4/5Top of thread

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Gardening looks too strenuous for him...

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By Old_man26/11/2021 16:28Fri Nov 26 16:28:14 2021In response to Re: Tisdale Favourite at 4/5Top of thread

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Tisdale now odds on

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By Themessiah26/11/2021 16:52Fri Nov 26 16:52:54 2021In response to Tisdale Favourite at 2/5Top of thread

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Rather him then Keith curle

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By jayess26/11/2021 17:31Fri Nov 26 17:31:44 2021In response to Re: Tisdale Favourite at 2/5Top of thread

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Rather neither of them...

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By jayess26/11/2021 17:43Fri Nov 26 17:43:43 2021In response to Re: Tisdale Favourite at 2/5Top of thread

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Actually, after reading this I'm inclined to think Tisdale may be a reasonable option.

https://worldfootballindex.com/2021/10/paul-tisdale-on-exeter-city-longevity-and-his-biggest-achievement-at-mk-dons/

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By Freemo26/11/2021 12:32Fri Nov 26 12:32:23 2021In response to Re: Tisdale Favourite at 4/5Top of thread

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I like the idea that they continue to get bad results because they don't want to sack the manager in case somebody else gets him for free.

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By Pete (PeteH)26/11/2021 13:29Fri Nov 26 13:29:36 2021In response to Re: Tisdale Favourite at 4/5Top of thread

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I was trying to say something along those lines and gave up - but that's exactly it :)

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By Hitchin Callling26/11/2021 11:56Fri Nov 26 11:56:29 2021In response to Re: Tisdale Favourite at 4/5Top of thread

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Even if they sack him will I assume they will have to pay out his contract to end of season.

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By jayess26/11/2021 11:54Fri Nov 26 11:54:48 2021In response to Re: Tisdale Favourite at 4/5Top of thread

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As I said the other day, it's a bit like a game of poker. Phil is a cool customer.
If Evans wants to come they will find a way.
My wife is called Sally. Can't be that shrewd if she married me.

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By Pete (PeteH)26/11/2021 11:49Fri Nov 26 11:49:38 2021In response to Re: Tisdale Favourite at 4/5Top of thread

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Yeah, not now he's an apparently marked man.

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By Sev26/11/2021 07:07Fri Nov 26 07:07:37 2021In response to Re: Tisdale Favourite at 4/5Top of thread

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I would worry a bit about Tisdale. He spent years and years at Exeter. I believe his style was to play football on the floor, passing etc which may be a good fit for our current players but wonder if it'll just be more of the same as what Revell was trying.

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By AgentEves26/11/2021 17:51Fri Nov 26 17:51:40 2021In response to Re: Tisdale Favourite at 4/5Top of thread

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I don't understand why everyone seems to think that Revs was trying to play football on the floor.

The passing around the back was purely to create space for the full backs to hit a long ball down the flanks. Or, if that wasn't an option, for the centre backs to just launch the ball into orbit.

That has been the most notable marked improvement since ROK has come in - we now pass the ball OUT from the back, through the midfield. The defenders and midfielders work together to create space for a forward pass, rather than just knocking it about aimlessly until finally hoofing it.

Our attacking play is still not perfect, but you absolutely have to start with building up from the back if you want to get the ball into good positions in the attacking half. Long balls result in the midfielders playing the game mostly in transition, and doesn't really allow for much cohesion in attack, since the forwards and midfielders are basically fighting for scraps.

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By Sev26/11/2021 21:25Fri Nov 26 21:25:34 2021In response to Re: Tisdale Favourite at 4/5Top of thread

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Well either way, I think the players we have would suit Tisdale's style so there wouldn't need to be too much upheaval which might be a persuading factor for the board of directors.

He has plenty of experience of the league which is another positive.

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By AgentEves26/11/2021 21:35Fri Nov 26 21:35:00 2021In response to Re: Tisdale Favourite at 4/5Top of thread

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It's true. We could do a lot worse.

More importantly, I'd prefer him over fatty Evans.

Edited by AgentEves at 21:35:27 on 26th November 2021

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By Hitchin Callling26/11/2021 09:22Fri Nov 26 09:22:40 2021In response to Re: Tisdale Favourite at 4/5Top of thread

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Never really played many games if I remember as had bad injury so started coaching really early.

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By Rotterdamboro25/11/2021 15:51Thu Nov 25 15:51:04 2021In response to Re: Betting removed Top of thread

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'Bookies know very little about the lower leagues'

They priced us up at 50-1 rags this season. They KNOW

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