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Wasn't all that bad

By WASP (Original Mr Wasp)30/12/2017 16:55Sat Dec 30 16:55:40 2017

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Sometimes its difficult to play against 10 men. Especially when the manager has no spunk in his balls.

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Re: Wasn't all that bad

By Boromatt30/12/2017 20:24Sat Dec 30 20:24:59 2017In response to Wasn't all that badTop of thread

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That was bad today. Wrong tactics once again, lack professionalism from the players at time. Also, joe fryer.... I have no words for that mistake.

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By Sev30/12/2017 20:36Sat Dec 30 20:36:38 2017In response to Re: Wasn't all that badTop of thread

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Seems every week Fryer costs us a goal. Jones used to be the same. Goals we can't afford to give away.

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Re: Wasn't all that bad

By Puds (Chuds)30/12/2017 21:06Sat Dec 30 21:06:01 2017In response to Re: Wasn't all that badTop of thread

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No he didn't.

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By Sev30/12/2017 21:16Sat Dec 30 21:16:39 2017In response to Re: Wasn't all that badTop of thread

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OK, every fortnight for Jones.

Luckily we had a period where he was injured and we got enough points from Day coming back in so almost made the playoffs. I thank that Crewe player else we could have been in a position lile this season.

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Re: Wasn't all that bad

By Boromatt30/12/2017 20:47Sat Dec 30 20:47:14 2017In response to Re: Wasn't all that badTop of thread

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Couldn’t agree more, how many points has he cost us this season? I can think of 4, Colchester, Exeter and today. Probably more in there!!

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Re: Wasn't all that bad

By Ogs (Geoff Wode)30/12/2017 20:38Sat Dec 30 20:38:36 2017In response to Re: Wasn't all that badTop of thread

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Fryer has pedigree. He helped to take Hartlepools down last season.

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Re: Wasn't all that bad

By Jonnym830/12/2017 20:56Sat Dec 30 20:56:05 2017In response to Re: Wasn't all that badTop of thread

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I remember seeing a tweet earlier this season where one of our fans claimed that Fryer would have an England cap in the future

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Re: Wasn't all that bad

By Ogs (Geoff Wode)30/12/2017 21:07Sat Dec 30 21:07:47 2017In response to Re: Wasn't all that badTop of thread

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Do they give them for tiddlywinks?

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Re: Wasn't all that bad

By Sev30/12/2017 20:41Sat Dec 30 20:41:50 2017In response to Re: Wasn't all that badTop of thread

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Yep. That's been nagging away at me every week he gives away another goal.

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By Rotterdamboro30/12/2017 19:33Sat Dec 30 19:33:44 2017In response to Wasn't all that badTop of thread

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We conceded the first goal again and as we all know that makes it pretty damn hard to come back from, even against Stotfold Under 9s.

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Re: Wasn't all that bad

By BaldockBoro (Balders)30/12/2017 18:55Sat Dec 30 18:55:03 2017In response to Wasn't all that badTop of thread

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Before kick off Sarll was sat alone on the bench. The players came out to warm up and Sarll went down the tunnel.

What followed was a largely woeful performance from every player.

Fryer had one decent save, at a comfortable height, to make, and he pushed it to his six yard line whence it was smacked past him with aplomb. Ok the ball was moving in the air, and it followed another bloody Smith give-away of the ball, but he should have done far better.

Their keeper had one save to make of note, right at the death, and made it well.

Genuinely didn't realise Gorman was on the pitch till he went off. McKee's first touch was awful but he tried, Smith generally just gave the ball away.

4-3-3 didn't work, given no-one really knew how as supposed to be in midfield, so we just gave up on it, so give him credit, Sarll went 3-something-something, which didn't work either so for the last 10 minutes he stuck little Jamie. Gray and then Fraser Franks up top, which didn't work either.

Again, credit where it's due we won 4-5 free-kicks in decent positions. Every single bloody one of which Joe Martin smacked past the far post.

We put some decent pressure on last 10 minutes, without forcing much beyond the one good save. Shame the vast majority couldn't be arsed to put in an appropriate level of effort for the first 80.

I didn't clap at the end. And I think it might have been the end, sadly.

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Re: Wasn't all that bad

By Sev30/12/2017 19:54Sat Dec 30 19:54:04 2017In response to Re: Wasn't all that badTop of thread

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Sounds like he was sacked before the game.

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Re: Wasn't all that bad

By Ratman4630/12/2017 20:23Sat Dec 30 20:23:53 2017In response to Re: Wasn't all that badTop of thread

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Is very odd..

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Re: Wasn't all that bad

By Lock1330/12/2017 19:00Sat Dec 30 19:00:40 2017In response to Re: Wasn't all that badTop of thread

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Thanks for the summary mate . Deano seemed to be very annoyed too when I listened in the car. The thing that struck me again was DS's post match interview I did not understand a word of it - it was just noise he said FA.

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Re: Wasn't all that bad

By Jonnym830/12/2017 19:09Sat Dec 30 19:09:49 2017In response to Re: Wasn't all that badTop of thread

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He said he put more attacking players on the pitch and was disappointed they didn’t create more. Whilst I’m sure there is more to it it does smack of desperation, expecting that just dropping attacking players into a team without having a coherent system is going to work given that there was only a couple of days to prepare. At least he tried something different but it sounds like the actions of a man desperately trying to save his job.

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Re: Wasn't all that bad

By BaldockBoro (Balders)30/12/2017 19:18Sat Dec 30 19:18:12 2017In response to Re: Wasn't all that badTop of thread

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When he went 3-something-something I thought exactly the same, last desperate throw of the dice to try and salvage his job, bit like throwing the keeper up top in injury time of a cup final, all or nothing.

As you say, without some tactics just throwing a shit-load more attackers on achieves nothing. For a couple of minutes we had Pett and Kennedy hugging the two touch lines presumably trying to stretch things, but no-one gave them the ball so they came inside again and just congested the final third.

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Re: Wasn't all that bad

By On me 'ead30/12/2017 17:09Sat Dec 30 17:09:27 2017In response to Wasn't all that badTop of thread

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True hard team to beat Crawley

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Re: Wasn't all that bad

By worrier30/12/2017 16:58Sat Dec 30 16:58:02 2017In response to Wasn't all that badTop of thread

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at least we got one shot off in the 2nd half

time for more excuses from Saryll


the bottom of the league is drawing closer

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Re: Wasn't all that bad

By Sev30/12/2017 16:58Sat Dec 30 16:58:00 2017In response to Wasn't all that badTop of thread

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Terrible result.

Lose Monday and heads have to roll.

Anything but a win and it will be a bad Christmas period after an even worse period before that.

Wallace will know when the time is right.

The best thing we can do is to continue to support the team on the pitch and not contribute to our own downfall by creating a poisoness atmosphere.

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Re: Wasn't all that bad

By Freemo30/12/2017 19:16Sat Dec 30 19:16:22 2017In response to Re: Wasn't all that badTop of thread

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I thought Sarll should stay if we were nearer playoffs than relegation. We're now equidistant

Ball's in his court.

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Re: Wasn't all that bad

By Cruffers30/12/2017 17:08Sat Dec 30 17:08:27 2017In response to Re: Wasn't all that badTop of thread

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Why do we have to wait until Monday?

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Re: Wasn't all that bad

By Sev30/12/2017 17:14Sat Dec 30 17:14:29 2017In response to Re: Wasn't all that badTop of thread

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We don't. We may get some news tomorrow.

Personally I think given Monday is only 2 days away there's no advantage in taking any action right now. After Monday would be ideal as the next game is then the FA Cup game and gives a good window between league games to appoint someone new. If that's the route we are going down.

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Re: Wasn't all that bad

By Ratman4630/12/2017 18:41Sat Dec 30 18:41:29 2017In response to Re: Wasn't all that badTop of thread

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Think he'll get the Reading game as well irrespective of what happens on Monday.

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Re: Wasn't all that bad

By Lock1330/12/2017 18:46Sat Dec 30 18:46:20 2017In response to Re: Wasn't all that badTop of thread

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I think he was given until the Morecambe game to turn this around . Phil will be well advanced on a Plan B. He will also have a given DS a deadline.

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Re: Wasn't all that bad

By Ratman4630/12/2017 18:49Sat Dec 30 18:49:54 2017In response to Re: Wasn't all that badTop of thread

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We'll see, he also said that he doesn't like sacking managers and wants to give DS time and things will be changing in the transfer window.

Edited by Ratman46 at 18:50:07 on 30th December 2017

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Re: Wasn't all that bad

By Lock1330/12/2017 18:52Sat Dec 30 18:52:49 2017In response to Re: Wasn't all that badTop of thread

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Indeed we will. I didn't see the bit about giving DS time where was that in the programme notes ?

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By Ratman4630/12/2017 19:23Sat Dec 30 19:23:56 2017In response to Re: Wasn't all that badTop of thread

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I took this as he'd give him more time:

“I believe this club has always displayed patience and belief in its management and players. Indeed, we have a reputation in the game of giving everyone a fair crack."

We were in a worse state under TS and he got till the end of Jan.

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Re: Wasn't all that bad

By Lock1330/12/2017 19:26Sat Dec 30 19:26:30 2017In response to Re: Wasn't all that badTop of thread

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Yep certainly says that. I just worry that Darren's crack at it may be coming to an end in January if we show no signs of pulling up before we smash into the ground

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Re: Wasn't all that bad

By BaldockBoro (Balders)30/12/2017 19:29Sat Dec 30 19:29:42 2017In response to Re: Wasn't all that badTop of thread

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I think he's had a fair crack, the only crack he has now has got a big brown stripe and a few claggy curly hairs on it.

He deserves the boot, sadly. Not saying he'll get it. Yet.

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Re: Wasn't all that bad

By Lock1330/12/2017 19:40Sat Dec 30 19:40:56 2017In response to Re: Wasn't all that badTop of thread

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Me too if I'm honest - though it pains me to say it .I really wish he would turn it round but it ain't happening

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Re: Wasn't all that bad

By On me 'ead30/12/2017 17:12Sat Dec 30 17:12:30 2017In response to Re: Wasn't all that badTop of thread

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Actually it's crap only 2 choices

1 a clear out of many players
2 new manager

Your choice PW

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By Sawyer30/12/2017 18:43Sat Dec 30 18:43:57 2017In response to Re: Wasn't all that badTop of thread

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1. A clear out of many players ... why ?
I think we actually have a decent squad of players that are performing inconsistently, ultimately that is down to the manager.

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Re: Wasn't all that bad

By Jonnym830/12/2017 18:49Sat Dec 30 18:49:13 2017In response to Re: Wasn't all that badTop of thread

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I said in pre season I thought this was the weakest squad we’ve had for years and I stand by that. We have a few decent players, but compared to league seasons gone by our team (midfield and defence) is weak IMO

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Re: Wasn't all that bad

By Sev30/12/2017 19:52Sat Dec 30 19:52:18 2017In response to Re: Wasn't all that badTop of thread

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It's unusual in that we've probably got the best strikers we've had in ages. Since Morison. Our defensive 4 is pretty standard with other seasons.

But our midfield is lacking.

And the absence of Chris Day I feel has cost us points. We used to say he was worth about 10 points a season. If we had him playing I daresay we'd be a bit higher and there wouldn't be talk of managerial changes.

Overall the squad isn't great but good. Everyone in football places more value in strikers than any other position so it's deceiving for us.

But if you look at any great side the midfield is incredible. The Man Utd team (Beckham Scholes Keane
Giggs). The Arsenal team (Vieira Pires Ljungberg Edu). The Chelsea team (Lampard Makelele Robben). The Barcelona team (Iniesta Xavi Busquets). The Stevenage team (Bostwick Bridges Drury Cole).

We have Kennedy. And McKee has potential to be fantastic. But we need at least two more top quality midfielders for it to be great. King could have been one but rumour is he isn't able to. That's also unfortunate for Sarll.

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Re: Wasn't all that bad

By Puds (Chuds)30/12/2017 20:10Sat Dec 30 20:10:30 2017In response to Re: Wasn't all that badTop of thread

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Edu?!

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By Sev30/12/2017 20:26Sat Dec 30 20:26:23 2017In response to Re: Wasn't all that badTop of thread

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Gilberto.

I couldn't think of the 4th and I remembered Edu filled in a bit. Haha.

Could also say Vieira Petit Overmars and Parlour

Edited by Sev at 20:26:53 on 30th December 2017

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Re: Wasn't all that bad

By Puds (Chuds)30/12/2017 21:06Sat Dec 30 21:06:45 2017In response to Re: Wasn't all that badTop of thread

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Petit is who you're after.

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By Sev30/12/2017 21:19Sat Dec 30 21:19:56 2017In response to Re: Wasn't all that badTop of thread

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No not that year.

Petit was in the 98(?) PL winning team. Not the invincibles. That was Gilberto. As I stated. Edu was in the squad but Gilberto was first choice.

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By Jonnym830/12/2017 20:03Sat Dec 30 20:03:41 2017In response to Re: Wasn't all that badTop of thread

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I agree with this, and especially your point about Day which is something I hadn’t really considered. As per my post below about the midfield - we should have been aware we weren’t strong enough and our recruitment here has cost us this season.

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By Puds (Chuds)30/12/2017 20:11Sat Dec 30 20:11:46 2017In response to Re: Wasn't all that badTop of thread

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Us fans were aware. We mentioned many times during pre-season & early on that our midfield was hugely lacking experience, leadership & quality.

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By Sev30/12/2017 20:28Sat Dec 30 20:28:13 2017In response to Re: Wasn't all that badTop of thread

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Not so much with King though. But did we know he wasnt going to be an option. And Beautyman was meant to be the added experience. And he's never featured. Whose fault is that I wonder?

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By peanut30/12/2017 18:51Sat Dec 30 18:51:35 2017In response to Re: Wasn't all that badTop of thread

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I can think of three or four players id be happy to lose but that's it. The rest all have the ability to contribute. It's not the players

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By Jonnym830/12/2017 19:12Sat Dec 30 19:12:12 2017In response to Re: Wasn't all that badTop of thread

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It’s not all the players fault no. It’s a combination of players and manager. It’s easy to get blinded by the impact of Newton and Samuel but we stripped out all of the experience from our midfield in the summer and expected inexperienced players lacking in physical stature to run the midfield. It was never going to happen.

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Re: Wasn't all that bad

By Sawyer30/12/2017 19:28Sat Dec 30 19:28:10 2017In response to Re: Wasn't all that badTop of thread

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Agreed, but if he played King in centre Midfield instead of defence he'd solve that..

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By peanut30/12/2017 20:55Sat Dec 30 20:55:12 2017In response to Re: Wasn't all that badTop of thread

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Yep - and it's not Gorman or whoever's fault that the club didn't consider King might be out for a while or wouldn't return in top condition

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